Jun-Jul 19 starters, support group

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  • posted by LouiseKangooroo
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    It’s Intermittent Fasting. I should have use the actual term 🙂
    You know how MM advise to do 12 hours fasting every day while on the fast 800. He also encourages people to try and extend these 12 hours further down the track to reach 16 or even 18 hours fast.

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    aha – I aim to eat dinner by 6:30 if possible though really depends when my partner gets back from work and then – again this comes down to planning and prepreparing food – I will have a strong coffee first thing in the morning and then aim to not eat till an apple or pear at 10 when I get to work – on the weekend I will have some chicken broth and try to make it till lunchtime without a proper meal

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    Great loss Ericmakesthree! And louisekangooroo -8cm on the waist is immense! Well done. I will be happy with inches over weight tbh! Ultimately it’s inches we see, not lbs! 👓
    Thanks woodduckie. This is defo a WoE and new Way of Life for us. I do just use the word ‘diet’ as in a Mediterranean diet – not a restriction – and we’re getting in before prediabetes as we are class candidates for it if we don’t do something soon. But I’m not expecting fast fast results given my life circumstances at the moment. I am not strict to 800 cals because if I’m up in the night with a baby you need to have your sensible mum head on not be ravenous and grouchy. Carbs are banished though.
    Tatie – welcome. We’re all new here and we’ve all had false starts with other diets before so I hope you enjoy the rest of the book, and decide to start. We look forward to hearing how you getting started and your first week. I felt good after a couple of days and that was enough to keep me going 🙂

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    Hi Em, yes I’m stoke about how quickly the centimetres are coming off my waist. I feel this wasn’t the case when I tried weight watchers earlier. Huge win for me!!
    Im already considering moving to 5:2. I feel I could become obsessive with calories counting and the drop in weight is not as rapide as I would have hoped for such a low calories regimen. I’ll give myself another week on the fast 800 before deciding.
    Keep doing well newbies, we’ve got this!!

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    I have plateaued for the past three days but know this happens so not too phased. One thing I do to keep me really motivated is I fill up 2l milk containers as I loose weight and put them on a shelf where I can see them (2l=2kg) and when you actually see how much you have lost it is great – you also have that target of filling up the last bit on the almost full one – even just the act of picking them up you realise how much weight you arent carrying around anymore. Also – can somebody please advise – the no calorie chicken broth recipe in the book do you skim the fat off the top or not before you eat because that bit tastes great (though could be the reason I am plateauing). Keep the posts coming – this is really helping me a lot

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    I love the visual Eric! Very clever.
    I wanted to do something similar but a little more artsy : two containers, one full of beads with each bead representing 100g. Transfer them in the most container as I go! Will make it today actually 🙂
    I also look at butter in the supermarket and tell myself : I have removed 14 large butter of my body! And finally when I pick my daughter up – who is 15kg – it just hit how much extra weight I’m carrying around!! And I think my heart and my body is super strong carrying this 24/7.
    Can’t wait to put it down lol
    Not sure about the broth sorry but I would personally leave it as fat is good for us isn’t it?! Personally I drink miso soup

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    Nice one Ms Kangaroo – I presume that you fill the first container with the amount you want to loose – ie if you want to loose 10KG there will be 100 beads

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    Hi Eric. You should be so proud of yourself! Bravo 🙂 I think that I would skim the fat off your chicken broth though. It
    will be wonderful and rich and gelatinous already, and animal fat is really dense with calories. I wouldn’t recommend it
    on the FAST800. It’s better to get your healthy fats from plant based sources, like seeds, nuts and avocado. I’ve been in
    maintenance for several years, but I still keep my proteins clean, i.e. wild fish, grass fed and finished beef, free range
    chicken, etc. Michael Pollan has written a fabulous book called “The Omnivore’s Dilemma”. He examines our food supply,
    and how it’s processed en route to the supermarket. Absolutely eye opening! I hope that you are enjoying this journey!

    Allie

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    That’s right Eric. I want to drop 15kg so 150 beads. Already half way and would love a visual help like yours with the milk bottle. Just need a smaller visual as I have no space in my small townhouse for 15L worth of milk 🤣

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    These are brilliant ideas. I hadn’t thought of a visual as motivation. Milk bottles it is! Though I do remember a 4lb lump of fat that the Cambridge Diet consultant used to bandy about (I maintained for weeks on that diet too! Just goes to show metabolism and the exercise is important.) it’s great to have something in the house that you can keep going to for a mental boost
    Thanks alliecat for confirming about clean protein. I had been wondering about meat dripping which my mother in law cooks everything in. Thankfully she is also happy to cook me something separate!
    Someone told mum she looked slimmer tonight. Result. And she’s lost another couple of lbs in the last few days. I’m yet to weigh.
    Keep going all!

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    Well finally broke the plateau and am now down to 88.1 – a total loss of 6.8kg so more liquid into the milk bottle :). I need to remember that the plateau normally comes before a big drop off. I did feel a bit light headed yesterday but dont know if that was just stress, the diet or the after affects of Dengue fever (I caught it in Bali in March!). Thanks alliecat re the protein – i skimmed it yesterday. I am really finding having the no cal broth on hand is a great backup. Interesting how my hunger is dropping and I am finding it easier to eat sensible portions

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    Great idea with the milk cartons Eric – and congrats in breaking your plateau, and with your Beads Louise. When I started reading this site I saw a discussion about “how many packets of butter” people had discarded. I couldn’t really build a butter mountain at home – so I created a paper version in Word. Our traditional packs of butter are 250G – so each time I dropped a little and kept it off I pasted a picture of one butter packet to my Word document “mountain”. I am up to 25 packs of butter – only a couple more to go to get to my happy point. When I am in the supermarket I look at the butter stacked up and imaging carrying those 25 packs around with me all day.
    So carrying your daughter around is a good reminder Louise. I hope your bead jars fill nicely!

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    Hey Merry, I still haven’t got around to doing my beads visual.
    I think I’ll do a mountain of butter too. That I can do easily and I like butter as a visual of the fat that sits around my organs and need to be GONE.
    I’m getting a lot of compliments lately. People who don’t know about the new WOE compliments me on my clothes and people who do know tell me that I have drop heaps. My face is much more defined. 😊👍

  • posted by LouiseKangooroo
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    I just ate some carbs for the first time in 5 weeks – well white carbs for the first time in 5 weeks – and I feel so physically bad! Completely bloated and full like I’ve eaten 3 dinners in a row or something. It’s crazy that I was used to this feeling and actually enjoying it. I feel so sick.
    Im going to fast for the rest of the day and have some miso soup.

  • posted by MerryMelba
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    Groan…! I have just come home from a very carb loaded rice and cake dinner at my SIL’s. And yes Louise – I feel awful. I need to remember this! I know I can have a few carbs every now and then in moderation, and just went way over the top tonight. Very small serves of everything, but still my body is saying blech!! Inflammation and bloating, so a very very low carb day tomorrow, fasting for most of it if I can, with a little beef broth. Flush my system out!

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    I’m in the same boat as you both Louise and Merry.
    Friday was a day that I was dreading for personal reasons. So, I’d booked months in advance a spa day for me and my best friend, so as to take my mind off the day somewhat.

    The spa day was amazing. I’ve never done a spa day before and it was good to relax and talk nonsense with my friend, BUT lunch was included in the deal and I managed to have an omelette, so not too bad, but my friend orderd hummus and flat bread to go with it. I ate a small amount. At the end of the day though, we had an afternoon tea. Scone with cream and jam, apple cake, 2 macarons and a glass of prosecco. I was fit to burst, but felt ok.

    When I got home, I had a cup of tea and I was waiting for my kids to get back home and my dad calls around to see how I am as he had been worried about me. I said I was fine about the day, but I felt literally awful for the amount of food I’d eaten. I felt absolutely dreadful. It was like a really bad hangover and I wanted to be sick.

    I got back on the diet the following day and feel a lot better today, but I even felt rough yesterday and I’ve put 2 lbs on overnight.

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    me too – had some friends over and cooked dinner – roast – which i can have the meat but also had a half a roast potato and probably too much of the meat but was deciding I was going to have a “cheat” day – havent been on the scales today and will weigh myself tomorrow morning and hopefully wont have put on too much …

  • posted by LouiseKangooroo
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    Haha looks like we all slept over the week end! Although Eric I don’t think that half potato will kick you out of ketosis.
    I feel much better today and have been fasting since I had my carb overload (90 gr!).
    It’s been over 24hrs fast and I’m feeling very well. Will probably stop around the 42 hrs mark.

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    Hi, Ericmakesthree! I read the exercise plan you have set up, and it sounds wonderfully ambitious! Have you heard of
    cauliflower rice? It can be roasted at a high temp in the oven, and takes on a slightly nutty flavor. It’s a way around
    the temptation of potatoes when you are just starting. Your blow out was minor compared to others being posted on
    this newbie thread. It may be hard to understand at first, but the longer that you can eliminate the carbs, the faster you
    will reach the stage where they will have no appeal for you. Be cautious about using extended fasting to reverse the
    damages from a fall off the wagon, because such just postpones breaking the carb addiction. When you accomplish
    that, maintenance will be a breeze! Keep up the excellent work…Very best wishes 🙂

    Allie

  • posted by LouiseKangooroo
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    What do you mean by fasting postponing breaking the carb addiction? I just finished the fasting guide and didn’t read any of that. Fasting seems to be a great tool for losing weight and maintenance.
    And once I’m in maintenance, I’ll try and find a place for carbs in my life just like any other food. Probably something like once a week or so.
    Anyway, I’m not there yet but hopefully soon! 🙂

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    Louise 90 g isn’t really the end of the world. I bet if you add up the carbs In your ‘old’ average day, 90g was still low carb in comparison!
    I see where Allie us coming from. Whilst you eat carby foods you never really lose the ‘taste’ for them so it makes maintenance more difficult as it’s easier to fall back into your old carby life!

  • posted by alliecat
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    Are you addressing me, Louise? Fasting is a great tool for weight loss and maintenance, both! I certainly agree…However,
    for many it takes a long while to master it. 🙂 It is my considered opinion that carbs are the underlying problem though.
    Are you using MMosley as your sole source of information? Many of us have acquired more knowledge that goes beyond
    his writings, but are at the same time compatible with low carb principles. Gary Taubes makes the case for breaking the
    carb habit in his book “Why We Get Fat..and What To Do About It”. I was fortunate to find it very early on, and after reading it,
    the clouds parted, the sun came out, and I’ve never looked at our food supply in the same way again. The compulsion to eat
    carbs and fall off the wagon is driven by gut bacteria and numerous other things. The only way to break the addiction to
    carbs is to starve the gut bacteria. The point I was trying to convey is that we often see newcomers slip up, and try to
    undo the effects by fasting. The underlying addiction is never addressed, and the sooner that we can do that, the possibilities
    of long term maintenance success go way up. Very best to you on your journey! Everything in moderation is a concept
    that eludes many of us, and we wouldn’t have ended up here in the first place if we were good at it 🙂

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    Hello, hello! I’m not diabetic or prediabetic but after having gestational diabetes I’m at an increased risk and am carrying an extra 50lbs that I want to discard (love the term 🙂 )! I’m still breastfeeding my soon to be 2 year old so am aiming to stay above 50g carbs a day (hoping this doesn’t affect my weight loss). Today is my first day doing the Fast 800 and I’m looking forward to getting to know you all 🙂

    Today has been going fine so far but would love some tips on how to stay motivated over the coming weeks. Thanks!

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    Hi Crisps, I dont know if you have looked at the information under FAQ at the top of the page. Who should avoid doing this diet, and number three on the list is pregnant or breastfeeding women. Have you spoken to your medical expert (midwife, doctor, health visitor or whatever) to be sure this is okay for you. It is not the low carbs that seem to be the problem but the calories as you need them to produce enough milk, although at 2 years old you might also be weaning. Not saying you shouldn’t, just to be aware.

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    Hi Sunshine, the little monkey is a brilliant eater (most of the time…) and mainly drinks cows milk but is refusing to give up the boob 😀 restricted calories can reduce your milk supply but he’s not relied on breastmilk as a food source for a year so I’m comfortable with risking a drop in supply, might even prompt him to self-wean 🙂

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    That’s great Crisps – he might just get the hint…

  • posted by Purplesnow
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    Hi all, I have just started my second week on the 800. I lost 4lb my first week and feel that’s a little low but have to say i have a very sedentary life. I get up come downstairs, on the computer (work) sit on it all day and then drained move to the sofa for the evening. I know that exercise of any kind will make the difference but I literally only leave the house at weekends. Anyway I have been interested to read the difference balance that people have between carbs/protein/fat during the day. I have found it quite easy to cut out all carbs apart from those occurring in veg etc. How do you get such a high fat balance and what do you eat?. I put everything into Myfitnesspal and i think its great but unless you buy it, you can’t split the carbs. Its great that everyone is so supportive and I’m really pleased to be able to join in

  • posted by JGwen
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    Hi Purplesnow, try using the fatsecret app. – It follows the UK system of splitting out fibre and sugar in the Carbs and is free to use.

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    Only day two for me, feeling a bit drained and head aches so I’ve just drank a mug of veg stock which has worked for me when I’ve previously tried (and failed) at low carb. Hoping for more success this time. Previous posters have mentioned chicken broth but do you think an oxo cube is ok? I’m very lazy! Also, miso soup would be a very welcome addition to my meal plan. Where do you guys get it? Is it sold in sachets in the supermarket or is it from a specialist food shop?

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    Hi 800, I just get miso sachets from Tescos, the bigger stores have several brands to choose from including gluten free ones 🙂

    Well, I’ve made it through the first day, only 55 more days to go 😀

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    Brilliant I’ll look out for them. Do you think they contain good bacteria in the little sachets? Huge fan of the clever guys diet too.

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    I think miso is naturally a pre and probiotic.

  • posted by ericmakesthree
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    Hi Alliecat – well – thanks for the post – this group is excellent. Yes, i have been doing cauliflower rice for a long time now since I first tried low carbing a few years back. I am happy to say that when I weighed myself the weight is still coming off and I am now down 8 kg. I think I am now getting used to eating a lot less but much more importantly being really concious of what I am eating and aware of quantity so what I thought was a major blow out probably wasn’t. I am really going for quality over quantity. I was really craving steak on Friday so went to the butcher (really good one near us) and instead of getting a couple of huge rump steaks i got him to cut me two 100g porterhouse steaks (not both for me). They tasted brilliant. I still have another 8 kg to go but so far I am actually enjoying this a lot.

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    Fantastic, ericmakesthree! I’m completely with you on seeking out quality proteins from a reliable source. I keep my choices
    to grassfed beef, free range chicken, wild fish, organic whole fat yogurt and organic eggs. It’s very “clean” eating, despite
    the extra expense. I avoid fatty meat, and get my healthy fat from plant based sources. You are doing great, and I’m happy to
    be of any help that I can. Carry on! 🙂

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    Hi 800, There is a common experience for people at the start of going through a period that is nicknamed Keto flu, because it feels like you are coming down with flu. – Our bodies store water when we are on a high carb diet and release it when we go low carb. – However, our kidneys also release electrolytes when they release water. You need to take extra electrolytes (good salt) either by drinking a salty drink, or just licking your finger after dipping it in a good quality salt.

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    I would recommend iodised salt but also love celery salt as it really boosts the flavour when you are hungry

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    eric, what we mean by “good salt” isn’t iodized table salt, but one with mineral trace elements, like fleur de sel or pink
    himalayan sea salt.

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    Alliecat understood – though 1. iodised is better than normal 2. much of the reading i have done points to the fact that the trace element content in these is so small that they are unlikely to provide a significant health benefit though – whatever works, I dont have a clue what is in celery salt but know it makes my stuff taste better so I feel like I am eating more

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    Éric you are going great guns!! Well done and very inspiring 🙂
    I’ve got 7kg to go too, I can almost taste it.
    Tonight I broke an extended fast with cauliflower rice and meatballs with some Parmesan on top. It was out of this earth, so delicious. Maybe it was the extended fast making the food taste so good 🤣🤣
    Tomorrow I’ve got a team lunch and I’m frantically studying the menu to find my best option 😅

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    Welcome CrispsForBreakfast, Purplesnow & 800
    — CrispsForBreakfast, upside of BF is the little extra calories burning to produce milk. I love how a self wean might be a blessing in disguise ha 🙂
    — Purplesnow, 4lbs in your first week is awesone! I think exercise is overrated if you’re targeted weight loss especially as most people tend to overeat past exercise. But of course being more active is generally good.
    Regarding the fat balance, I just complete my meals with butter, olive oil, avocado, nuts, cheese, these sort of things.
    — 800, sounds like you are experiencing Keto Flu. Im in my sixth week but I remember very well feeling so crap for about a week at the beginning. Once you’ve pushed through it though, you’ll feel amazing! I use oxo cubes for my broth but that’s not ideal. Homemade hands down is best. But hey, I have three small kids, two very demanding jobs, so oxo will do it for me 🙂 Miso paste can be bought in supermarket over here (australia), not sure where you’re from?
    — I hope I didn’t miss anyone! I love to see how many people are embracing this new WOE like me, it gives me a push to think about everyone experiencing the same struggles and joys along the way.

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    Hi Louise 🙂 I felt myself cringe deeply when reading of a challenge in a longstanding member of the forum. For many years, MANY here have pioneered this way of eating and honed it to where it is . . . . . by sharing discoveries . . . either personal experiences and breakthroughs/results etc., or researching further. They have been selfless beings prepared o spread the word of how this CAN and HAS changed SO many lives . . . all for the better 🙂 Dr MM’s book was/is a basic “introduction!!!” – a starter kit if you will. (I believe some here started the change before the book was written!!!) It isnt a bible. Im feeling on safe ground in “assuming” no diabetic or insulin issues brought on your own dietary changes. Therefore comparing apples and oranges is not practical – nor is it necessary to confuse newbies. This – for many – REALLY IS a kind of all or nothing thing. A TOTAL lifechange . . . noot foe just 8 weeks . . . thats roughly the turnaround time for tutoring the body to burn something other than carbs!!! Its more like life or a slow death for those of us who have had/still do (have BSL or insulin issues ) but are in remission – WHO CANNOT AFFORD TO DO (WHITE OR BROWN OR ANY COLOUR CARB(age!!!) now or anytime in the future – if we want to feel well and take charge of our health 🙂 Thats it!!! Full stop!!! Even one day a week is poisonous!!! Maintenance – when we get there . . . is a whole new ballgame of juggling. The feelings of having achieved what we set out to do are/can be strong in declaring some kind of amnesty as “reward”. No its temptation to draw you backward to start again . . . like a giant game of snakes and ladders! It awakens the urges and gut bacteria to again crave/scream for carbs!!! And gain weight!!! A bit like a smoker may only need one cigarette to awaken the “desire”. An alcoholic only needs one drink to (possibly) bring them undone bigtime. They go to AA. This “diet” isnt like any of the commercially advertised “diets”. This is longterm “change of eating habits” ‘diet’ – in the context of WHAT is eaten – a way of eating – for a healthier body. Busting the myths created in the name of social “progress” and fad foods. BSD’ers come to the forum. I will only speak for myself when I say Id rather ditch the carbs 7 days a week and have my HbA1c halved and holding me away from medications of any kind . . . than look forward to my (once) favourite rolled oats for breakfast one morning a week! Or Ryvita crispbreads for lunch . . . with tomato and cheese . . . with maybe a scrape of Vegemite. Those two things would blow my BS readings skyhigh and unable to tolerate meds, I was only 1 year ago, facing insulin injections. Why would anyone want to knowingly do that to oneself? Several here have recently shared how ill, bloated even guilty and dillusioned etc they feel/felt after imbibing carbs – (at whatever function or for whatever reason . . .) – so who would want to repeat that experience . . .? let alone do it once a week to say “I ate carbs”!!! Yippee!!! Sharing personal experiences helps us all to do better with our chosen changes . . . but declaring you can “do something without fear, favour or repercussions on the health front when . . . almost seems like flaunting the not negotiable option for those who have made conscious “self imposed choices and rules” – and are doing battle to beat the carb “vice” in their quest to beat the BS/insulin issues – to LIVE better!!! Such seemed just a little like being counterproductive, (dare I say) even a little gloating – or for us bs/insulin “malfunctioning” folks – misinformed. No apologies for my viewpoint . . . simply because Im ever so grateful, to have uncovered that previously encouraged Low GI foods were my particular poison!!! Quack Quack from the Duckpond! I do wish you well . . . and all the best in your individual quest – whatever that was chosen to achieve.

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    Hi Louise,
    The worrying about work based meals and picking out BSD foods is an issue that pops up frequently. – The best parallel I ever came across was someone who is allergic to nuts. – Would they sit there wondering what they could eat so that they don’t inconvenience others? Of course not, neither would a vegan or vegetarian nowadays, or someone who is gluten intolerant. –

    Any caterers or restaurants have to cater for food intolerances, but they will not cater for carb intolerances unless they have customers asking for low carb options. – When I am going to an official event nowadays and they ask for details of special diet I say ketogenic, or very low carb. – Sometimes it results in my having a discussion with the catering staff when I get there (one guy in full whites with the big hat even brought the lid of the ice cream pot over to show me that ice cream has no carbs in the ingredient list)…… 🙂 But that’s to the good of everyone. Because the next time there is someone low carb there they will benefit.

    There may be occasions where you decide to step off the waggon, at the weekend I was at a social event where people had brought a plate of food to share and I really enjoyed the event including the cake. (And gained a couple of kg overnight as a result as well as feeling like I had a hangover.)

    I have been on this forum since Oct 2017 so I have seen people come and go. Being autistic I understand about masking, putting on a public face while feeling frayed inside. I feel that there is an aspect that some people are masking their emotions with comfort eating. – I certainly was.

    Also sometimes, I get the impression that there is a link between feelings of self worth and talking about what we choose to eat. It comes back to the difference between a diet and a Way of Eating. – A diet is something short term that we are doing because we are embarrassed about our body. – You can if you want follow the BSD for a few weeks, then go back to eating as you used to and put the weight back on, then back again on the BSD. But there is another way, as we understand how our bodies work and the benefits of feeding them nourishing food has for the rest of our lives this becomes a Way of Eating. – That involves coming out to say at a work meeting or in a restaurant, I am worth feeding my body a healthy diet. It is a step, but I think its part of the healing process.

    (When I am feeling very political I then get into wondering what the motives of the politicians are for not acting on how unhealthy processed food is, but that’s a whole other topic.)

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    Beautifully written, Duckie an JGwen! and excellent insight into managing the WOE long term. I thoroughly enjoyed each of
    ypur thoughts. Sharing makes the community what it is suppose to be. See you both out and about 🙂

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    Thanks very much for this LK it is hard to get away from the constant bombardment about exercise. I have nothing against it and enjoy it but building it into life is hard sometimes and its good to find a way to improve my health and waistline without becoming a slave to it. This is so helpful with info and tips and support. Has anyone done the mix of mashed avocado with scrambled egg. It seems like a really weird combo to me. Also how do you stop the cauliflower having a texture like grit instead. Yours meatballs sounded lovely

    800 I only started last week and felt dreadful with headaches for a few days but its already passed.

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    Wow – what fantastic posts – some really great insights – i particularly like the comment that the book isnt a bible as that is where most diets – though this isnt a diet it is about changing how you view food and how it works – fall down that it is too black and white and once you err that is it – the diet is over. Couple of my own thoughts – i started this after seeing MM and his amazing wife give a talk at the Childrens hospital here in Perth (WA) about gut health and all the research that was going on – it just all made sense – I am a scientist and everything stood up to scrutiny. Interestingly my partner said a few years ago that we should think about opening a low carb restaurant and hey presto there are now a couple in Perth. My blood pressure has dropped by about 20% and is now well within the normal band. and last thought – i am actually amazed now at how much i used to eat which was simply (a) habit (b) I could hear my father voice in my head talking about starving kids in Biafra (showing my age there)

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    There you are, purplesnow! I’m happy to hear that your headaches have passed, I knew they would if you just hung
    in there.. 🙂 Exercise has just too many health benefits to deny the value of it, but it it’s entirely possible to be very
    successful in achieving your goals if you don’t do it. My experience is antecdotal of course, but I was too disabled
    to do any of it when I began down the BSD road. For 9 months I did nothing, and still discarded a stone a month. At
    month 10 I began walking 5 miles a day, and my monthly loss was exactly the same, @ .5lb per day. Ease into it,
    but please don’t think that it is mandatory…Success or failure doesn’t depend on it 🙂 How are you preparing your
    cauli rice, purplesnow? I think that we can find a way to tweak your recipe to make it more palatable 🙂

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    JGwen, I’m lucky that I’m melbourne virtually all the restaurants cater for any diets : vegan, gluten-free etc. So it was easy for me to pick a good option. I had a steak with salad on the side and ask them to omit the fries 🙂
    I know I’m worth it and don’t have any problem standing up for myself.
    Purple snow, I cook my cauliflower rice in the microwave. 7 min on high, covered with cling wrap and a couple of holes.

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    @NewDayRising, did you recover from your carbs spa day? I hope you’re in a good place emotionally following that dreaded day.

    @emandmum, @tazza2019, @sharan7, how are you all doing? I hope your journey is going well. Would love to hear from you!

    @woodduckie, I wish tone of voice was better conveyed by text in writing, but it’s not easy… You can be assured that there was no flaunting/gloating coming from me. I have different ideas about carbs – probably because I have a different experience, body and culture? Maybe cause I am at a start of this journey and might change my mind later? – but it’s OK, as I always say Different strokes for different folks. 😉

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    Hi @louisekangooroo. My weigh in was today and I’ve put on 2lbs. Still, it could have been worse, so I’m thankful for that. I did cook a Sunday Roast for my sisters and kids, but I didn’t have any potatoes, just chicken and veg. Did have roasted carrots with honey though. It was worth the calories to be surrounded by people that I love in a weekend that I was dreading.

    It sound stupid, but my ex partner of 13 years and the father of my 2 kids remarried on Friday and so I had to be gentle with myself. I know it sounds stupid, as we’ve been split for over 3 years and he has turned into a completely different person, I feel that he’s not the person I met, but it still stung a little esp as his new wife and him got together while I was still pregnant with our 2nd child and both my kids attended the wedding. I had to go easy on myself. As it happens, the day passed quickly and I was perfectly fine.

    It was nice to be surrounded by friends and family this weekend and to have fun.
    I am back on it now though. Fully committed to losing that 2lbs I put on this week. Onwards and upwards.
    Sorry to tell you all my life story. hahah

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    Hi Newdayrising, its not stupid to feel raw in that situation. – Of course it would hurt. I am glad to hear that your family could be with you.

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