Oh they sound lovely but are they a bit high carby, so how long has it taken you to walk 10,000 steps, all that gardening I did yesterday only clocked 7,000

Thanks for that help LUCKY! I am of the FOP school of dining..freezer oven plate..
I havent done much proper cooking / baking since i was in my twenties and trying to be
Mary Anne GoodWife…
Maybe time for a change of attitude xx My Beau cooks from scratch every night! x

I don’t know Jan, I was only counting calories up to yesterday! But if I want cake or wraps, then it’s better to have a homemade one with allowed ingredients than shop bought stuff. It’s worked anyway, to an extent, hasn’t it?

I’ve done 90 minutes on the treadmill today, and the rest from pottering around the house.

It’s amazing what you’ll try to cook when you’re missing something!

Ladies I am considering courgette bread, but a pimped combination of various irritating Paleo recipes that variously call for the wings of fairies or seeds from the Himalayas as part of it. I will use almond and or coconut flour, plus courgette and wing it from there!! 😳

*Opens draft word document of ‘Well, THAT didn’t work Volume 4’ in anticipation*

What didn’t work

Hahaha lucky! Jan- it’s our recipe book of failed recipes (primarily cooked on EFF – Epic Fail Fridays)

Hahaha Janey! 😉

Only a pre-emptive fail though, it might be nice!

Heaven – for supper I made roast chicken, lots of vegetables, gravy (all from the chicken juices) AND 80g of roast potato AND a tiny glass of wine.
The chicken turned out to be the cook in the bag sort, so I used the basil infused olive oil left from my salad at lunchtime; I’d already counted the calories of that & they tasted amazing.

I think I’ll be using up the chicken all week now.
And I have a bowl of baked rhubarb with ginger – some of that will take me slightly over, but I’m going to have a small portion this evening.

I have a cookery book somewhere that is just cakes and puddings made with vegetables. I must dig it out, I’m sure some can be adapted. I am doing tons more cooking than I usually do (even if I do still get prepared salad from Waitrose & cook in the bag chicken!)

I’ve done 8500 steps today – the delivery that I was texted and told ‘between midday and 9pm’ turned up at about five in the end, so not to bad, I did get time to go for another walk.

I had a cyst removed from my back this morning – it felt huge, but I don’t think it will contribute much to weight loss – the good news is that it doesn’t hurt at all, and the anaesthetic must have worn off by now. Looking at the after care instructions I might pass on going to the gym this week though.

Wow Frog, you trouper! Fantastic that it doesn’t hurt, hopefully it’ll be the same tomorrow. Definitely take it easy.

And you walked 8500 steps and you cooked a delicious meal. It does sound delicious too. You deserve the pudding, over calories or not, it’s legal. My hat off to you 🙂

Back to ‘legal cup cakes’ have you seen the Graze Chocolate Cherry Tart? They sell them in sainsburys. Its a box with some very good chocolate buttons, raisins, cherries and pecans. Not for everyday, but a great cake substitute!

No I haven’t, but I saw something similar in another shop a couple of days back and I can’t for the life of me think where. They were around the 100 calorie mark. Graze are the ones who send things out in boxes, aren’t they?

Yes, they are – never signed up to have them sent, although a couple of offices that I’ve worked people have had them (or had the trial offer, does anyone sign up for the thing at full price???!)
Not sure when they branched out to selling in supermarkets – it’s still an expensive way of buying stuff, but for me it’s a good way of ensuring that I only have a small portion.

Is anyone else craving full fat? I really want some more yoghurt! But i dont want more cals/ carb so i’ m going to bed x think i need to up my full fat from tomozz! …night all x x
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bit too much ginger in my rhubarb – tasted good, a bit more punchy than usual.
Froglet wanted to share the yoghurt and did a double take when she got close and smelt the ginger.

Morning! Sorry I flaked out last night!

I don’t know anyone who has willingly subscribed to it full price, Frog. Maybe more caught out by the renewing subscriptions lol. To me, something you have to put your card details in for, isn’t free. I think these bags I saw were about a quid, they were all ‘cakey’ flavours, not sure now if it was Iceland, something is telling me Iceland at the tills. So quite expensive, but portion control is fantastic. Would put you off buying four packs, wouldn’t it? Haha there’s nothing like that ginger ‘kick’ is there, it has a heat of its own. Hope your back is still ok by this morning?

Well, it’s another day of staying the same on the scales, but I’m not fussing over scales any more, a dear friend of mine has helped me put things into perspective over the last couple of days. It. Doesn’t. Matter. The plan is this way of eating now forever, so it’s going to come off in its own time, I’m not against the clock, so why impose deadlines on myself? Why stress myself out? Two days of counting my carbs as well has shown me I’m not going over the top there yet, so I’m happy with that. I need to eat well – check. And I need to move more – work in progress. It’s that simple.

Eps, are you back around yet? Did you have a nice weekend away? Also, where has Gymgirl gone to? Is her back ok now and is she back in the gym with no time for us any more??? *sniff*. Janey, how was your courgette bread? Any more takers for the BSD Calendar?? Will Timmy be in his Speedos or his ski gear? Or will he get January and June, being the only active man on the thread? This, and more, will be revealed in the upcoming episode.

Good morning from Bean! Blimey, if you go away for just a few minutes (let alone a day!) there are millions of messages on here – I just can’t keep up!!

You are so right, Lucky – what’s the hurry? Why do we get so hett up with the scales? I guess a good loss gives us a boost but if we feel good then we shouldn’t worry too much about the scales should we. I’ve started weighing every day and find myself getting disappointed when I haven’t lost any more!! I guess I’m eager to lose as much as I can ready for my trip to Canada to stay with my darling sister and my little nephs! My sister has always bean tiny – she weighs a mere 8 stone! Anyway, its good to have a goal!

I’m off to the chiro again today. Oh boy! its taken me the whole week to recover from last week’s shenanigans! Here we go again – ouch!!

Bean xx

Here’s Janey (not in a Postman always knocks twice way), back from collecting fairy wings for my courgette bread, which could be made tonight! Keep that page in the book clear Lucky…

You know my views on weighing… Step off the scales ladies! If you feel better, look better and clothes are getting looser, you’re heading in the right direction. As Lucky said, we are in this for the long haul benefits 👍🏼

I still want to be Miss July in the calendar 😆

Morning Bean! I can imagine it’s overwhelming haha, I think the best thing to do is just delete the email stating 400 new messages and then just jump in again where you land, otherwise you’ll never keep up!

I’ve had four days of staying the same, despite some pretty heavy duty walking (for me!). Ordinarily this would have induced a U.F.S incident by now (Unidentified Flying Scales). But I’m not fussed this week. Because I know I’ve eaten well, and I know I’ve exercised more than usual. I can’t stop weighing every day, but I can choose my reaction to the results I get. And look at the bigger picture as opposed to the smaller one. I think I’ve turned a corner… but don’t quote me.

8 stone, wow. I can’t even remember 8 stone. I can remember 9, vaguely, but I think 8 was at a time when I wasn’t concerned about scales, or weight, or things like that. The first ‘memory’ I have of knowing what I weighed is my first stint at WW when I was 16, I weighed 9 stone ish and I had half a stone to lose that I had put on starting college. Mum dragged me with her. Half a bloody stone!

Good luck at the chiropractor and hope it doesn’t hurt too much! 🙂

Morning!!!!! I see the handcart didn’t pick you up during the night Janey?? 😉

The page is yours. In fact, I’ve kept a section for you. And Tokyo.

I might need a double page spread. How about April and May, massive terracotta pot covering each… just throw that out there, because these babies won’t fit on one page. Not with my small-island sized head in the shot as well.

Lucky
Good positive thinking on the BSD approach, counting carbs is very reassuring isn’t it, hope you have a good day, I flaked out yesterday eve as well, must bee the dull weather, anyway another day another 800 cals to conquer, weigh day tomorrow hmmmmm😽

Morning Jan 🙂 Yes it has reassured me. I know no two days are the same but because I tend to eat similarly, I really don’t think I’ve been going over my 50 carbs often, if at all. In fact, the last couple of days have surprised me that they’ve been so low! I’m going to try and chill out now about the whole thing, the hardest part is over, getting over the cravings, the carb flu. I’m building up a nice little recipe store of things that I can eat – just need to make a bread that I can slice and freeze for that time that only bread or toast will do. My first 8 weeks have been about the weight loss – which I am pleased with. The next 8 are going to be more about adapting this plan to suit me and my wants and needs for long term. That’s not just Summer, that’s every season, because I can’t rely on salad and fresh berries in the Winter! I know you can get them, but I can guarantee, I won’t want them in December! I like to eat seasonally. If I can do that, then I’ll succeed at this, I have no doubt. We all have to figure out the same and walk our own paths to the end of it, whilst supporting each other along the way. We’re all going to do it differently, and for different reasons, no one way is right, is it? There’s been a definite shift in my mindset the last few days, I think we have to do that, keep checking in with ourselves and seeing where we go next. I think the 8 week time frame is just right for that, seeing as I’m days away from the end of my first cycle!

So – my next 8 weeks is going to be about preparation. Adaptation. Possibly (definitely) many, many baking disasters. The weight loss will be an added bonus. You have all been warned! I’m going to be in the kitchen! I might (but don’t quote me) even set up a separate blog just for the successful recipes. What do you all think? I already have two blogs I don’t maintain nearly enough, shall I add a third to the mix?

Oh and turnips. Lots and lots of turnips 🙂

By the way Turnip, er sorry LUCKY – was it you who didn’t worry about carbs to begin with?

I like the idea of your recipe blog. And what is this bread you’re going to freeze? Sounds intriguing!

Yes, I’ve done the first 7 weeks sticking to 800 calories alone, Bean. That is, 800 calories from the obviously allowed list of things, I haven’t been like scarfing 800 calories of milk chocolate or cake 😉 Nuts, vegetables, meat, olive oil, berries, full fat dairy etc. And I must have been doing something right, I suppose, or I wouldn’t have lost over 2 stone!

I might do the blog thing then. I haven’t decided on the bread yet, there is a pumpkin bread (but squash would work too) that we’re all dying to try but haven’t got round to. Eps made a yogurt and oat bread the other week, sliced it and froze it and that had the thumbs up from her. And Janey of course, made her now famous ‘fart bread’, a flatbread made out of broccoli that smelled of… well, farts. She had sandwiches and even made a toastie out of it. I haven’t bitten the bullet yet though. I think it’s time…

I wonder if I can change my username to Lucky Turnip…?

Lucky Turnip? Sounds like something form Blackadder!!

I am so OVER greek yoghurt. The last few weeks of home made disaster and stomach cramps from ‘healthy’ cultures mean I am facing a breakfast dilemma… May have to remortgage the house to pay for smoked salmon every day 🙁

In other news, the plumber has arrived in the office. Hubba hubba. All I’m saying is I’m glad I dyed my hair last night!!!!!!!

Oh so he IS that good then??? Can you take a sneaky snap and DM it????

Have you tried mini egg cup things? Like baked omelettes in muffin tins? They can be frozen and you could take a couple out night before? I made some at the start of the journey, some even had pepperoni and jalapenos in. Only worked out about 50 calories each.

Ooh yes please Lucky

A recipe thread will be your legacy, for when you now longer need this forum, and I’m always very busy, don’t have time to explore recipes etc, so I’m sure it will assist loads of us on here.

Yes I had those muffins.. were LUSH. Not sure I want to freeze them.. but could be worth a go!

Ohh he’s yummy. I’m renowned for ‘covert’ snaps so I will try. Muahahahaha

Oh lucky another one for the recipe book, get it done girl, we are all waiting with baited breath now lol whatever that means, baited does that mean your breath smells of maggots or boilies or something, if anyone has a fisherman in the family that makes their own boilies you will know what I mean yurrrrrk.

Hi everyone

First post here. Currently completed 2 weeks of the 8 week 800cal BSD . I have a personal blog gavinsgadgets , which is normally used for my tech stuff, but in the menu I have a dedicated page for the diet. I update it every Monday with my results and food eaten with photos.

My end goal is to lose 45% of my body weight and be healthy inside too. The first 2 days were mighty tough going but I’m into a routine now.

I must admit at times I’m finding it daunting and my end goal feels like it’s is a long way.

Anyway time to read some posts 🙂

Welcome Gavin, another recruit for our BSD calendar??!! We take a supportive but light hearted approach on here – laughing helps melt the pounds away!!

They froze ok Janey, I was a bit mmmmmm about freezing eggs, but they were fine. Just needed heating in the microwave for a few seconds and a quick and easy brekkie! Only kept them a few weeks though, because I am a bit careful where food is concerned. Probably too careful.

Right, the next time I make things, I’m going to MFP everything and add another blog to my list…

Welcome Gavin, well done on getting as far as week 2, which was a shocker for me personally. Over that now, and flying towards the end of week 8! I know how it feels to need to lose a lot of weight, but just think the end goal is 2 weeks closer than if you hadn’t started at all! And for a lot of people, the results are unparalleled compared to other plans. And yes, it’s not just the outside but being healthy on the inside too! Good luck chook! 🙂

Hi Janeycoughdrop

The BSD calendar? Sounds interesting .

Hi Lucky – thanks for visiting my blog 🙂 and amazing that you’re coming up to the end of week 8.

It was discussed much further up the thread about doing a WI Calendar Girls style calendar when we’re all at goal weight. Catering each page to our individual strengths. Or weaknesses in some cases. There’s Timmy in his now better fitting Speedos… what were the others, Janey? A bit tongue in cheek. Or maybe not. You never know with us 😉

You’re very welcome! It was good to see about the soupmaker too, I’ve coveted one for years, and I actually have an A.J meat slicer – best bit of kitchen equipment I have EVER bought, end of. And that includes better than the slow cooker. Which, let’s face it, takes some beating, especially in the Winter.

Oh yes Gavin, we intend to publicise our post BSD bodies, warts and all! Hang on in there – once you’re past week 3 it all gets easier! I’m an ‘old timer’ now.. probably about 12 – 13 weeks in, and stabilised on a primarily med style diet (whilst watching the carbs and cals). But weight and shape still decreasing 🙂

We also have a list of BSD terms that you will grow to know and love, including EFF (Epic Fail Friday) – for when recipes go horribly wrong (usually on a Friday), robes and capes of smugness (for milestones and triumphs) and slippers of despair (for when nothing goes right!). Lucky has a comprehensive list.

We also compile the ‘Well That Didn’t Work’ cookbook for kitchen recipes nightmares (see EFF above!).

Pot of Hurrah – Commonly served after successful avoidance of cake all afternoon.
Tutting at Wilted Kale – When something doesn’t quite meet your exacting standards. See: KALE; YANKEE CANDLES
How Much! – See: HOLLAND & BARRETT; ELECTRONIC ENGINEERING TEXTBOOKS; JO MALONE CANDLES
Robes/Capes of Smugness – Items of clothing worn by those feeling righteously smug. This can be for cake avoidance, getting
into a lower size, or just because they are of a smug nature, ordinarily.
Shameful Veil of Procrastination – When you’re just sat looking at a PC/phone/tablet screen, waiting for someone to answer your last post, rather than baking the pumpkin seed bread.
Meat Knot – Ahem…
Keep your Chickpeas Chunky – self explanatory. Don’t blend them to a pulp. Fool. Said in the manner of Gordon Ramsay.
The ‘Well, That Didn’t Work’ Cookbook – For the time being, a mythical, but also very real cookbook of BSD recipes that we hoped would work, but didn’t.
Farty Bread – A brocolli based flat-bread that smells of fart.
Always eat your tuna armed with a laser pointer – for when cat based psychology is required.
Don your Pashmina of Determination – for when the going gets tough and you can’t have a biscuit
A ‘Lady Pound’ – that random pound, or seven, that suddenly appear, out of nowhere, at a certain point in the month.
Cafetiere of Pffffffffft – SEE ‘POT OF HURRAH’. Then imagine complete opposite of.
Epic Fail Friday – Specifically relating to Friday the 15th of July, which felt more like a Friday 13th July. A day where everything you cook goes spectacularly wrong. Also Friday 20th July.
Slippers of Despair – The footwear worn on an Epic Fail Friday whilst sipping from the Cafetiere of Pfffffffffft.
Like Paltrow’s foo-foo after a steam clean – a bake that is unfathomably dry after using coconut flour instead of almond. Because it’s cheaper. See: JANEY’S COFFEE CAKE MUFFINS
Blanket of Mardiness – like a comfort blanket, grasped by those who have had a crap day and have done nothing but bloody moan. Can be knitted but preferably crocheted to add a higher element of despair.

This may help you try and understand what the HELL we’re going on about 99% of the time if you intend to stick around 🙂

Quite a few expressions 🙂

🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂

Bwahahahahaha, I never get tired of that list! I may print it out and put it on my work wall – the guys will have no idea what is going on!

Btw, plumber has left the building 🙁 Unable to get a sneaky pic. He made me go a bit giggly and pink when he ‘showed me his work’ just now :S

Could have been worse. He could have showed you his tools… Fnarr.

Or offered to investigate your plumbing. No? Too much? Even for me?

PS: I still haven’t baked the pumpkin seed bread, weeks later…! 🙂

I am actually wiping away tears of mirth here…

I believe the pumpkin seed bread is in the book under chapter ‘SO close..but never quite made it’. I mean, that was my intention last night, until the butternut squash in the fridge got all snarly when I tried to get it out of the packet!!

Courgettes are on the cards tonight.. maybe that sounds wrong but you know what I mean (probably)

I have a pack languishing in my salad crisper and I’m too scared to touch the bag in case my fingers go through it.

It wouldn’t sound wrong to a normal person, Janey. But, this is me we’re talking about here.

Hi gang! Back after such lovely bank holiday weekend and down half a kg again this week yippppppppppppppeee. Went to visit islands and all and had gorgeous walks and a sea swim again. Now before anyone gets too excited (i like to think you care ;-))) I had put on half a kg last week you’ll remember so it is kind of losing what I put on but all pretty good as shock of all shocks I ate a biscuit or two last night and a pototo FARL OOOOOOOOOO…. to be honest both tasted rubbish and my head started to spin with the way too much sugar so if I could just remember that for the hopefully long time away next time then I will have learned a valuable lesson = I don’t even want packet biscuits ever again – they are rubbish! It all happened as was staying with friends and has some really delicious sourdough bread for breakfast one morning as didn’t want to explain… then ate well during the day but it clearly had an effect – slippery slope those bready carbs they are!
Today I am feeling a bit dizzy and out of it but cheerful – probably as a result of 11 weeks of none of that rubbish and then overdose on too many carbs. Kind of interesting though and I am getting through today with panache and will move on. Hmm wonder do we need a phrase with panache in it for the list…. Progressing with panache??

Lucky you sound like you have had an epiphany or two and are well on your way to adaptation weeks to come. Totally right to focus on the long term and probably good advice for us all. I still weight myself but maybe be better for me to focus on the long term and then when I eat in friend’s places or where I don’t have as much control over it, I can just get on with it and get back into my own eating straight away. Dont know though as think I need the strictness to rein myself in again! Maybe in another few months when I finally realise how much I actually PREfer eating the BSD way and so many other things make me feel sick though I think I want them.
Brilliant idea about blog – do it!! I hate when we find a good recipe and then it takes ages to dig through all the crazy posts to find it again:-)) We need those starred posts on what’s app. Still haven’t made turnips but I think today will be the day. Just ate salmon as a mid morning snack as could feel my brain trying to justify going to the café next door to get “cup of tea”… ha ha ha omg it’s like fighting with my own brain…

Flirty Janey with the Plumber heeeeee heeee….

Hey who mentioned that game Cards against humanity? I think someone did and I dont think I knew what it was at the time. OMG played with friends last night – sooooooooo funny. Was nearly getting sick I laughed so much.

Hope everyone else doing really well **clapping hands** xxx

Ah yes, Cards Against Humanity.. no room for sensitivity there!!!! Now you can understand why a person as horrid as me enjoys it 😉

We’re all in ‘steps’ duels on our Jawbones now, thanks to you Eps! Lucky and I may end up with shin splints the way we’re going! Sadly I think she will ultimately triumph due to treadmill and the fact it’s raining so I don’t want to trudge up town!!! But still!

don the Hazmat suit Lucky, and release that bag of squash to the hills.. it’s not worth fighting it. Mine was yucky yesterday *retch*

A term including ‘panache’? I like it!

Epssssssssssssssssssssssssss! Welcome back, we missed you, you little ray of bloody sunshine, you! 🙂 🙂 Well done on going away and having a weight loss too! Glad you had a lovely time. I think it might be something we all have to go through to realise, nope! It’s not just that I can’t eat this stuff any more, but I don’t want to either.

Consider ‘Progressing with Panache’ added to the list 😀 – For when you’ve OD’ed on carbs but you’re determined not to spend a day or two clutching the blanket of mardiness, and instead put it into perspective of the whole picture. And how much of a star you are, all round. How’s that sound??

I am still weighing myself, don’t get me wrong! But can you imagine me a few weeks ago with four days stayed the same weight? Wow! I’d have been gutted! Especially when I’ve pulled in 2 consecutive 10,000 plus walking days and I’m beating Janey in our duel by about 5000 steps (just sayin’ 😉 ). But no, bigger picture. And yes, there ARE going to be times where we don’t adapt to the plan, or face it, we’ll bloody starve, and that does not appeal to me in the slightest. That’s just asking for trouble. I know it’s completely random this, but my brother had a serious accident a few years ago and he broke his neck, we spent weeks travelling between here and the unit he was in in England, there’s no way I could have stuck to this then. But if life gets in the way, and I don’t mean in quite such a serious way either, we’ll know how to make better choices, won’t we? And do what we can to limit damage.

So glad you’re back 🙂

Are you duelling Tokyo behind my back??????