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  • posted by  JGwen on Am I losing weight "fast" enough?
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    The very fast weight loss in the early weeks that some people experience comes from loosing water rather than fat. –
    A lb of fat is equal to approximately 3500 calories. So if you work to keep insulin levels low, you can be sure that any calories burned in excess of calories eaten are coming from your fat stores.
    Measuring your progress via the scales is not the best method. – As you keep your insulin levels low other hormone systems can work as they are intended, that includes growth hormone which signals for your body to improve bone density and repair muscles after exercise. A healthy bone structure and muscle structure is obviously better for your longterm health. However this means you will weigh more.
    Rather than measuring progress using the scales, use a tape measure and look for inch loss across the whole body. Not just waist and hip measurements as our bodies often work on fat loss from arms, legs, and collar bones became exposed, even a drop in shoe size can occur before starting on the spare tyre.

  • posted by  hp46 on Am I losing weight "fast" enough?
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    I am on week three of my 8 weeks and having started at just over 90 kg I’m not losing weight as quickly as I’d hoped – wk 1 4.5 lbs, wk 2 2.25 lbs, wk 3 1 lb (total 7.75 lbs). I’ve stuck strictly to the plan, recording my meals and calories every day and using lots of the recipes from the books. My concern is that although I am losing weight my rate of loss may not be “fast” enough to help my blood sugar – HbA1C results came in at 90 mmol just prior to me starting the diet. I’d had no previous blood sugar tests so have no idea of my history.

  • posted by  Ria-tor on ONE WEEK AT A TIME beginning March 19th 2019
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    Hi

    Shellbob44 sorry you are having tough time. I use yazio app after trying loads I liked that one best, you can input your blood glucose numbers under body measurements but I think it’s more for tracking your calories carbs etc and inputting your food. Sorry that was no help whatsoever!

    Thanks SunnyB, Sixturkeys and Wedleg, much appreciated. Now it’s been mentioned I’m thinking Ive not had enough salt during week 3 and now week 4. We don’t cook with it or add it to food at the table, I’m pretty certain we don’t even have any in the house.

    I don’t have blood sugar issues, I’m quite overweight and have a fatty liver.

    Currently I’m eating 3 meals a day though if I’m not hungry enough for dinner I won’t eat. I mostly have my main meal at lunch except on Saturday. I’ve been managing a 12-14 hour fast.

    Week 1 I followed the book plan 98% ( am gluten intolerant so had to sub a couple of things)
    Week 2 I continued trying recipes from the book and added in my own but didn’t follow meal plan as it just wasn’t convenient.

    From week 3 onwards I’ve been making my own meal plans/ winging it and eating the following sort of things:

    Breakfast.
    Halfway through week three I couldn’t face eggs for breakfast anymore so I’m now eating 100g Greek yoghurt, 30g raspberries or blueberries and about 5g chia seeds and 1 walnut or Brazil nut. I also have coffee with a little dribble of cream. Once a week I have around 15-20 grams of oats with my breakfast and reduce the amount of yoghurt.

    Lunch.
    chicken or grilled prawns with green veg or salad and sometimes roasted veg. The chicken lentil curry from the book sometimes. Once a week I’ll have the veg rogan josh or Dahl from the book, Sunday I have roast chicken, beef or lamb with green veg.

    At 4pm which used to be my snack time ( going back 10 years when I had a job lol) I still have the urge for something so I have a green tea or black tea.

    Dinner is egg based or tuna from a tin or humous from the book or occasionally I’ll have marks n sparks thin ham slices and a bit of cheddar cheese , all with salad. I say salad but it’s mostly lettuce or cucumber ribbons. Saturday I have a m & s Angus or skinny burger with cheese wrapped in lettuce and homemade tomato salsa, sometimes with mushrooms instead of the chips I used to have.

    My fat comes from coconut milk in the curries from the book and avocado, seeds and nuts ( unsalted and not roasted ) that I’ll add to my meals if I think I need more fats.

    I drink water through the day and quite a bit in the evening (instead of the g&t or vodka soda I used to have). Its adding upto around 2 litres not including coffee and tea. I am waking up thirsty though so maybe I should increase further.

    I keep carbs around 30g and under 50g on the days I have the veg curry or Dahl and hummus from the book.

    I’m definitely thinking it’s salt now, week 1 I had salty bacon in the breakfast muffins, salty sausages for Sunday lunch and miso and tamari ( instead of soy sauce ) in the recipes and there’s none of that in my current meal plan so I’ll need to remember to include it from now on.

    Take care all
    Toria

  • Hi Wishfulthinker,
    If you let us know more about your average meals / daily diet and food preferences then we can probably make some suggestions.
    In general I would say that we have all had the fat is bad mantra drummed into us for so many years that we still tend to shy away from having too many calories from healthy fats which makes meeting the calorie count without carbs difficult. Cooking dishes in butter, or using an oil as a dressing for a salad adds calories and helps you feel fuller without adding carbs.

  • Hello,

    I’ve been doing 800 cals a day with very low carbs (averaging around 45g/day) for 10 days now. The last few days however I have actually put ON weight (I have to weigh myself every day, it’s the only way I can hold myself accountable). Not a huge amount, 0.2 of a lb for a couple of days (every day), but I am exercising as well and not cheating.

    Having read the other forum threads I can see some people need to get their carbs below 30g/day to loose weight, so I think I need to try this. My question is – what do you eat in a typical day to keep it under this? I’m already eating only very very low carb foods.

    Any advice most welcome!

  • posted by  Patricia1066 on ONE WEEK AT A TIME beginning March 19th 2019
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    Shellbob, wishing your son better in the near future, keep on looking after yourself as well. I am thinking of you.
    You asked for Recommendations on an app, I’m using Sugar Diary on Android, MelStudio. I have no connection with the app other than that I purchased the app.

    I log blood sugar levels under bsl mmol/L (and USA standards can be used too), and carbs on the bread unit measurement. One bread unit is equivalent to 10g carbs, but I ignore that and simply input carbs by the gram.
    If you have hba1c tests you can record these, and your blood pressure.
    Weight is measured also.
    There is a free text area for notes which is great to put down what I ate, and the time.
    I like the way you can create tags so that you can identify peaks and fasting blood sugar easily.
    There are lots of well designed icons in the app.
    To export to PDF and Excel is easy, no DRM restriction.
    On the app you can chart your data by date and tag. You can edit the date so it doesn’t matter if you forgot to input a value.
    It costs £2 or so.
    I use fatsecret as well, as it analyses the food composition but I really like Sugar Diary, for me it’s the Swiss knife of apps.

  • posted by  hadenough on 1st October Starters Support Group
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    Hi Miss Ziggy
    I too became so despondent and down constantly thinking about food and my addiction to carbs, so I know how you feel. The past few weeks I have been eating all the wrong foods (highly carb food) and I’m just trying to get myself back in the right headspace to get back on track which I’m slowly doing. Of course, having a family member who is seriously ill doesn’t help my stress levels and when I’m stressed what do I do…seek comfort food.

    Anyway, I’m wishing you and everyone else on this journey every success,

  • posted by  hadenough on 1st October Starters Support Group
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    Thanks for your words of encouragement jennie10 and Sonia X
    I’m slowly getting back on track. Sometimes I feel like giving up all together. but then I think that since I was off most of my insulin and diabetes tablets and my BSL’s were good, I want to get back to that point.
    They have been so up and down since I went off track but like I said I’m getting there.
    thank you for your support!

    Jennie10, I’m glad to hear your brothers home, it’s such a stressful time when our family members are sick.

  • Hi Jennie,
    I thought I would chip in re the breathalyser. – I bought an AT6000 back in November. As a vegi, its difficult for me to stay below 20g of carbs, so I needed to fine my eating patterns to ensure I am in ketosis.
    Like you I love data and find it interesting to be able to track how different food items effect my levels. I also think that by discovering how different feelings on enhanced energy / mental alertness matches with different level of ketosis, helps me find my own personal sweet spot. – I have found it helpful as well when working on increasing my length of fasting, I get a sense of achievement with reaching higher levels which helps me to handle the move from 22 hrs to 36 hour fasts. I find that I get a desire to eat not because of physical hunger but because of thoughts that I aught to eat every day, and aiming to spend a specific number of hours at a higher level of ketosis helps me get through the evenings.
    – I suspect that in the long term it will also be useful to compare results to see how my ability to handle carbs improves over time as Insulin Resistance reduces.
    I had thought about buying a blood monitor, but the model most commonly recommended keto mojo is not available in the UK as well as it costing $1 a test strip. – I thought it was worth trying one of the cheap breathalysers when I saw an article comparing the results with the expensive Ketonix. I worked it out today. – I would guess if I had been using one of the blood testers where you pay for test strips I would have spent over $600 dollars on test strips. 4 months, testing at least 4 times a day soon adds up.
    You may find this article helpful https://fellrnr.com/wiki/Breath_Acetone_Meters
    I did find earlier this year when I had flu that the day before I started to struggle with my breathing I stopped being able to get a reading on the monitor, and returned to getting a reading once the chest infection had cleared.
    My AT6000 has started to going through batteries at a rate of knots and while I feel that I am in ketosis, I can’t get a reading. I have ordered a second today (buying a second is cheaper than buying a bottle of gin :-). Even if I do have to buy one every 4 months, at £10 a pop I still think its good value for money.

  • posted by  sixturkeys on A question about ketosis
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    For myself, I am not sure what is meant by “one round” of BSD. Is that 8 weeks? But on unrelated matters, hope the new pup is getting on well – it really sounded as if you were his saviour!

  • posted by  sixturkeys on ONE WEEK AT A TIME beginning March 19th 2019
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    CC, hope you enjoy (and not having a cast iron thingy, I did the first stage in a frying pan, then decanted into an oven proof dish).
    Shellbob, you mentioned that your son is looking at uni/college courses, that is a big step and worrying to launch oneself into the big wide world, away from comfort zone. And he may be worrying about you, his father and his sister, if he goes off to study, and it is just “easier” to block all that out. It is a different challenge, but my daughter, a few years ago, developed an eating disorder. She is now so much better, but it is so painful as a parent to just not seem to get through and be rebuffed. I do think just being there, saying “I love you”, whether that is welcomed or not, does ultimately help – but I do not underestimate what it costs us as parents in the meantime. xx

  • posted by  JGwen on A question about ketosis
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    Hi Lucy,
    From your description of your diet I think it is unlikely that you were in ketosis, most people have to be some where in the range of 20 to 50g of carbs for a period of time to get into fat burning mode. It may be worth looking for reasons for a false positive for ketosis. This article could possibly be helpful. https://patient.info/doctor/urine-ketones-meanings-and-false-positives-pro

    Allie is correct the pee sticks are a notoriously unreliable way of testing. I use one of the cheap breathalysers to test for the by product of ketosis. An AT6000. There is a knack to using a breathalyser, you have to get the last of your breath into the machine. But one is only around £10 and you can test as many times as you want during a day to work out your response to different foods.

    I strongly feel that everyone who needs to eat low carb for more than one round of the BSD should either be closely monitoring their carbs and keeping under 20g a day and taking other steps to ensure insulin is kept low, or monitoring to ensure they are in ketosis. – If you look into the consequence of calorie counting without having insulin under control – including if you research the outcome for participants in the greatest loser diet show, a period of low calorie without keeping insulin levels low enough to be in ketosis will result in a lowering in metabolic rate which makes it more likely that people will put on weight once they try to enter maintenance.

  • posted by  LucyAB on STARTING FAST 800 – 10TH MARCH
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    Hi again everyone!

    Thanks to everyone for the encouragement!

    I am still on the straight and narrow – however I nearly gave in to an oven chip buttie with tomato sauce and mayonnaise!!!
    I turned on the oven in preparation but as I did this, I was able to really think whether it was worth it and how I would feel about scuppering my chances of achieving my goals.
    I decided on an omelette with a small amount of grated cheese and salad – it was delicious!!!!!

    Hurrah!

    Next real obstacle is exercise… I do take the dog out twice a day through the week (daughter takes the other times while i’m at work) and 4 times a day at the weekends. I really want to get into swimming but its the getting there after work which is the only time I can go. I have a bike but have too many aches and pains for that at present.

    I am going to try and get going at the weekend.

    Sorry for the essay!

    I hope you all are managing to keep with it!

    Lucy

  • posted by  Kafin13 on ONE WEEK AT A TIME beginning March 19th 2019
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    Thank you everyone for your kind thoughts and remembering about today. I’ve been given new meds so hopefully no side effects, they usually take about four weeks to fully kick in so just keeping going while I wait. Thinking of you, Shellbob – hang in there. Xxxx

  • posted by  Skipping through the tulips on Positive Thoughts Thread Anyone?
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    Wendleg, I’m in awe of your fast. I read the links you mentioned the other day with great interest. Have there been many trials as to the efficacy of such a long fast. As I’m just starting out it’s not something I intend to try any time in the nearby future. Did you build up slowly? I have managed a 17 hours without too much bother but have since read that autophagy doesn’t kick in till 16 hours and then builds so I wouldn’t get much of a result from 17 hours. If I’m going to try for 24 hours I’m going to have to chose the day carefully. On the way home from school today my youngest was ploughing through a packet of Cadbury fingers. It was almost more than I could stand and I don’t even like milk chocolate. I held fast and thought about the square of dark chocolate waiting for me. One of the greedy swinesxhad found it an eaten it!

  • posted by  sixturkeys on ONE WEEK AT A TIME beginning March 19th 2019
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    Ah CC, I see, fish overload. I also did something v tasty recently with brussel sprouts (a whole new ball game when roasted but which do have protein – which surprised me!), bit of bacon (which could be omitted) and gooey cheese. It is on the Café Delites website low carb recipe section. Which has lots of other tasty sounding recipes. Well done to Mrs CC!

  • posted by  Custardcrumble on ONE WEEK AT A TIME beginning March 19th 2019
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    Thanks for lifting my mood everyone.
    ShellBob, SunnyB, SixTurkeys & Wendleg, thanks for the advice on water. My water intake has definitely reduced of late – have actively upped my intake today.
    Wendleg, thanks for the videos – food for thought. Pretty sure I’m tracking correctly but will be doubly precise tomorrow!
    SixTurkeys, thanks for the food ideas. We’re eating a *lot* of fish of late! Am wondering if there’s something out there with less protein and more fat within carb/kcal limits. Am thinking of upping my fat intake with cheese alongside my leafy veg…
    Fingers crossed for a change soon and I’ll be back to the positive vibes again.
    Speaking of which, the lovely wife hit 1 stone discard today, so it’s not all bad in the custard household!
    CC

  • posted by  sixturkeys on ONE WEEK AT A TIME beginning March 19th 2019
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    Mr CC, personally I am always worried with bones in herrings….my go to recently is salmon, oven cooked in foil parcel (no added oil), near end of cooking, spoon over some fresh pesto sauce, leave foil open and finish cooking. Delicious with some simple steamed green veg.

  • posted by  wendleg on ONE WEEK AT A TIME beginning March 19th 2019
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    Toria, you have discarded 10.5 lbs so you are doing brilliantly. You say that in the past you would have quit by now so hats off to you. I have no experience of your symptoms but my instinct is also to suggest checking hydration and salt levels. As Sunny says , maybe you could share your meal plans and we could maybe suggest a few tweaks ? I really hope you feel better soon and please don’t give up . Sending you a big hug xx

  • posted by  wendleg on ONE WEEK AT A TIME beginning March 19th 2019
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    I really feel for our brave Kafin and Shellbob. You are amazing women. Shellbob is your son able to talk to friends etc outside the family ? I know that when dealing with teenagers ( 13/14 year olds in my experience) it is common to reject the family . A lot of anger issues make family members an easy target. I am sure you know it is important to keep the communication channels open . Are there any empathetic teachers you can call on ? Your broken heart will mend …your son knows you are there for him despite his apparent rejection. He will be back. Stay strong brave lady. We are here to support you.
    Kafin we are rooting for you too and admire your determination.
    Good to see you back CC. Keep up the water intake . Remember it’s not all about the numbers on the scales. Maybe have a look at this video /transcript to see if it provides any pointers ?
    https://www.dietdoctor.com/how-to-break-weight-loss-plateau
    https://www.dietdoctor.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/4.-Eric-Westman-plateau.pdf

  • posted by  wendleg on ONE WEEK AT A TIME beginning March 19th 2019
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    Sixturkeys you are very cheeky 😉 😉 A mislaid earring would have caused a major melt down 😉
    I once went into school having forgotten to choose my coordinating earrings and I felt naked all day !!!!!!!!!!!!

  • posted by  Shellbob44 on ONE WEEK AT A TIME beginning March 19th 2019
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    Hi Allie, my son is 18. He has completely shut us out at the moment so we are just having to go with that (despite my broken heart).
    As Sunshine says I’m keeping on keeping on!

    On a more practical note I’m still having bad fasting BG in the morning. I’ve tested overnight and at bed its usually 5.2ish then drops into the 4s by 2am but by 6am its in the mid to high 6s sometimes 7s. I was wondering if anyone knew of an App where I could compare carbs with BG easily. I’m using fatsecret to log weight and food/carbs but there is no option for BG. I had a quick look this morning but most are linked to specific BG machines. If anyone knows of one where i can just type in my bg with carbs rather than having to type everything i eat into both apps.
    If not I will have to resort to excel and do it in chunks.

    Just a note to custardcrumle my plateau shifted by upping my water intake, I then had my first whoosh. I too hadn’t moved in inches or grams but then overnight….Whoooosh!

    Love to you all, Shell xx

  • posted by  sixturkeys on ONE WEEK AT A TIME beginning March 19th 2019
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    I was very confused just now by the ref to Budgie’s “tracks” and to Duckie seeing them – my first thought was that Budgie had made some suggestions for Monday pom pom session backing tunes…..
    I am also sorry to hear Shellbob that things are tough. Again just know that we are all thinking of you. I am mentally sending you a virtual finest cashmere blanket delicately scented with the most calming and indulgent perfume to wrap round your aches and pains.
    And Wendleg; I hope your fast did not affect your spirits yesterday (or – shock horror! – a mislaid earring!)
    Mr CC hang on in there – upping water intake seems to have worked wonders for some!

  • posted by  SunnyB on ONE WEEK AT A TIME beginning March 19th 2019
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    \!/ \!/ Budgie – In the UK you will find unsweetened almond milk in both the refrigerated section and on the shelf with the long life milks and the later is cheaper, despite being exactly the same product.
    C/Crumble – if things don’t start moving again soon, I suggest dropping your carb intake a little and checking you are keeping well hydrated which is essential – if in doubt, have an extra glass of water. Although, if your body shape is changing, there is probably something going on. I’ve personally never been visited by the whoosh fairy, but lots of others have been and you might well get lucky on that front too. As for the fish, I’d have thought any fatty fish should meet the criteria as this will be more sating for you. I’m thinking maybe herring with an almond and herb crust?
    wendleg – a 65hrs fasting is a huge achievement and quite puts my efforts to shame. You obviously have amazing discipline.
    Shellbob – you have a lot on your plate right now, so be kind to yourself. Well done on the 2kg discard – that’s a real achievement especially given everything you are coping with at the moment. I’m sure it would be so much easier for you to say to hell with the BSD right now, but you’re still pressing ahead, which is commendable. Hope that in time, this WOE might reap some benefits on the arthritis front for you.
    Allie – how’s it all going for you? I’m not making headway on the wriggle room front – bit annoyed with myself, as I seem to be lacking focus right now – will get there though.

  • posted by  alliecat on ONE WEEK AT A TIME beginning March 19th 2019
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    Happy Wednesday, all! I adore your “tracks”, Budgie! How very clever of you 🙂 I hope Duckie sees them!
    Re unsweetened almond milk…Just use it the same way you would use cow’s milk. My husband has never
    agreed to give up his morning cereal, but easily adapted to the substitution. When I began this WOE, I started using
    almond milk in my morning mugs of coffee. What happened over time though, is that my taste for sweetness changed
    so dramatically that now I find it too sweet! Please let us know how this works for you. In the U.S., unsweetened
    almond milk can be found in the refrigerated section of the market, near the milk. Low calorie and low carb, too!
    It also will keep for weeks, unlike regular milk. No waste!

    Okay Wendy…65 hrs??? I’m quite certain that that is record here! It really must be a case of mind over matter,
    as you suggest. You know that thus far I have a problem over 22 hrs. I can tolerate the growling stomach, but
    I can’t cope at all with the nausea. You may not see yourself as an authority, but I certainly do! The health benefits
    of an extended fast once a month are profound, so my hat is definitely off to you! Do you feel the same sense of
    euphoria that Esnecca reported? That has a certain appeal, I must admit 🙂

    Shellbob, dealing with chronic pain as well as the emotional challenges that are a part of trying to help your son
    must be enormous. I have a nephew, now aged 39, who is bipolar. His depression is palpable, as well as his
    general unhappiness. It is crushing to be unable to do anything to make a difference. I think that there is a lot
    in the “pipeline” with respect to surgical intervention, but that is still a long way off, I’m afraid. How old is your son?
    Taking good care of your own health may be the best way to help at the moment, and you are certainly doing that.
    Please take care. You and Kafin are in our hearts!

    Allie

  • posted by  Custardcrumble on ONE WEEK AT A TIME beginning March 19th 2019
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    Hi All,
    Half way through week 6 and have been on a plateau for nearly the last 3 weeks. Been analysing (gotta love Excel) and my calories, carbs and protein are all under where they should be for my target weight (currently trying 50g limit for carbs) when averaged over the last 5.5 weeks. Body fat has been coming down fairly consistently and Mrs CC thinks I’m changing shape (though the tape measure has also plateaued for me).
    I’m desperately hoping for the fabled whoosh effect – anyone have an idea of when it might arrive?! Or do I need to drop the carbs further? If so, what are your recommendations for lower carb meals? I’ve already cut a lot of fruit out of my diet and don’t touch root veg or any of the obvious carbs. Nuts are limited to 10g max (preferably macadamia or almonds). I’m struggling to come up with ideas suitable for a pescatarian wife and something that keeps me feeling sated.
    Grateful for any and all advice – I’m determined not to give up but feeling a little disheartened today.
    TIA
    CC

  • posted by  TheBudgie on ONE WEEK AT A TIME beginning March 19th 2019
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    Afternoon,
    I was wondering if anyone had any advice on unsweetened almond milk I saw mentioned yesterday, I’m trying to think of ways to kick my sweetener habit and if this is easier and more viable plus I miss my porridge so much, and was hoping I could adapt it to the recipe.

    Thanks
    \|/ \|/

  • posted by  MissZiggy on 1st October Starters Support Group
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    Hi there,
    I haven’t contributed in a long while so I just thought I would let you know where I am right now.
    I am really proud of all of you and your successes on BSD. When I first tried it I was successful and lost a substantial amount of weight. I got myself into bad habits and tried again a year later and wasn’t as successful as I was with BSD the first time. In truth I became so despondent and down constantly thinking about food meals and menus etc. Another truth was my head wasn’t coping with my obsession with food and the guilt feeling I had with not eating the correct foods at times. There were also times when other life issues just got in the way and BSD became so hard.
    I needed to get of the strict regimen of a diet.
    So right now I am not following BSD in fact I am not really following any specific diet other than to eat less of the foods I like. Luckily I have always like protein based meals and have more energy after eating protein. I thank BSD for this😁. I have actually been halving the amount of “normal foods” and coping well.
    Mentally this has been good for us at home. Food is less of an issue. Maybe this what is called the maintenance stage with a bit of cheating. Over the past couple of months my weight has stabilised.
    I really hope you all continue with BSD and get to where you need to be.
    Finally thank all of you for your support! You have all been really valuable over the past few months.

    Miss Ziggy

  • posted by  wendleg on Positive Thoughts Thread Anyone?
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    Sorry Sunny I was feeling a bit too discouraged yesterday to post positives and it is very unlike me so I am bouncing back today on a beautiful sunny Wednesday afternoon ( no school which gives me a breather !)
    Positives
    I put on a white wash before leaving this morning and it is drying happily in the sunshine.
    My red nose sale is going well and I am hoping to beat my 2017 record !
    I completed a 65h fast at lunch time today.I am not showing off …I only do it once a month. It’s very empowering.I am in control of food rather than being controlled and addicted..
    I am not sure if this is a positive but I found some cream in the Bio/Health food shop the other day and when I opened it it has the consistency of Jersey clotted cream .OMG. I have always lamented the lack of proper cream in France.Crème fraiche is just not the same ….and now I have a source !!! Not to be abused !!!

    Some great postitives, Skipping, Budgie, Verano ! Crikey the week is galloping by again ! I can even anticipate a snoozette in the sun for a shot of vitamin D !
    Hope everyone is having a lovely day

  • posted by  wendleg on ONE WEEK AT A TIME beginning March 19th 2019
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    Hi Skinnytish
    I am not sure I can give advice as fasting does not suit everyone but one thing I would say is give it a go and see how you respond. I am happy to tell you about my experience. I assume it would not be advisable for diabetics without medical supervision ?

    I started off with 24h but you can build up to that if you find it’s too long in the first instance. 24 hours for me means fasting from evening meal to the same time the next day. I honestly believe it’s a question of mind over matter. Hunger is nothing to fear. It doesn’t last, it’s manageable. Nothing terrible will happen if you don’t eat. I really appreciate a delicious meal after a fasting period. I never used to know what feeling hungry was like as I basically scoffed all day !
    I am busy throughout the day and there is no food available but I really don’t think about it. It’s not so easy being at home with almonds and dark choc beckoning me (!) and a weekend fast would be tough for me.

    So I do 24h, occasionally 36h and today I completed 65h ( I last ate on Sunday evening and broke the fast today,Wednesday at Ipm and I honestly wasn’t suffering from hunger which definitely lessens as you proceed with a fast.
    I am lucky in that I don’t ever feel shaky, wobbly , faint or suffer any other adverse effects.
    I only drink green tea, black coffee or water to which I add some Himalayan salt. Not very sexy but be aware of constipation issues which can occur if you don’t drink enough.

    My inspiration was Jason Fung’s Complete Guide to Fasting which you have probably heard of.

    Give it a go, Skinnytish and let us know how you get on. There are other fasters on the forum who could talk about their experience too. Wishing you all the best xx

  • posted by  wendleg on ONE WEEK AT A TIME beginning March 19th 2019
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    Hi everyone
    So glad to see the thread is flourshing. I needed some time for reflection yesterday but I will catch up and reply to everyone’s posts very soon.

    Thanks Allie, SunnyB and sixturkeys for your continued warmth and support to those struggling or facing major challenges. My heart goes out to you…Kafin,Shellbob, Toria and any one else who is feeling a bit low.

    I am worried that Amz hasn’t checked in. Hoping all is well…..

  • posted by  Shellbob44 on ONE WEEK AT A TIME beginning March 19th 2019
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    Good luck today Kafin, been thinking about you.
    Its been a tough few days, things pretty bad with my son still and my arthritis has had a massive flare up. Despite this I did lose just under 2kgs last week thanks to my first whoosh. Things have slowed again now. To be honest I’m feeling pretty flat, also much hungrier Than I have been since I started, odd for 7 weeks in but probably linked to the steroid injection or how miserable things are.

  • posted by  Reducia on 1st October Starters Support Group
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    Hi all – another sunny day here to bring cheer
    Jennie- so sorry to hear about your technology problems – guess they’ll get sorted as these things always do – although there are days when I think I’d be better off without it all – but that’s rubbish in the long run of course. VERY pleased to hear you brother’s back home and that he and your sister in law are getting by with help available – tho I’m sure they’re always glad to see you as family. We all need to feel our family is supportive – and you are plainly there for them. Count those 4lb lost as a reward for the care and attention you been meting out.

    Hadenough – I really hope you’ll find the strength to stick at it – 2.4 lb is not so much to get rid of – especially on this WoE. Perhaps you could plan a few days of your favourite BSD foods and hope that helps you stick to good eating until they’re gone – or just keep you steady. Once you’ve done that, you may feel more positive about discarding more. Just focus on your health and on how much better you’ll feel when you’re done with the whole process and are skipping around more.

    Margaret – where are you? Hope you’re well and progressing. Miss you.

    I have to say that I’m in fair despair right now though I know there are folk here who will tell me not to take too much notice of the Docs who are telling me that my passing out is – in part, at least – due to ‘low carbing’ as they put it. I can’t understand that, as Diabetes UK is recommending low carb diets to lower BS levels. The fainting is OK at the moment – different BP meds stopping my numbers drop too low have helped enormously and I no longer crash to the floor – or haven’t for a while. Rather foolishly I’ve upped my carb intake to around 35g daily – foolish because, in paying too much attention to my Doctors, I’ve muddied the waters as to whether it was only a need for change of meds. I will up the carbs gradually but I have to say it was a scary time that I don’t wish to see again. I hope my cardiology appt. next month may clarify things a bit. In the meantime I wonder if anyone has any more info than I have already received here – thanks everyone – as to whether this happens to others. I have upped my salt intake in several ways and I currently take judicious Potassium and Magnesium citrate supplements recommended by someone here – forgive me, I forget who that was. In the meantime, I’m struggling on and although I haven’t discarded any lbs, I have maintained my weight and am happy enough to be on my feet.
    Good luck to everyone with your various efforts- it’s not always easy but there is no doubt that it’s worth continuing with.
    SoniaX

  • posted by  sixturkeys on ONE WEEK AT A TIME beginning March 19th 2019
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    Hi Toria. Are you drinking enough water? And making sure your salt intake is right? If you don’t like in food, I think some people just dip their finger in a pot (of “proper” salt) and lick it off! But it is important to keep that regulated. And obviously if you have blood sugar issues then you need to take extra care. I don’t think we have heard for a bit from Cleverblonde, KerryP or Amz? And Shellbob!

  • posted by  SunnyB on ONE WEEK AT A TIME beginning March 19th 2019
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    Sorry you’re struggling Tori’s. I vaguely remember being in a similar situation midway through my first eight weeks. Wish I could offer real words of wisdom, but can’t quite remember how I dealt with it at the time and I know nothing about how you have been approach your daily meals. Have you been eating three meals a day, two, extending overnight fasts etc? However, I’m wondering if it’s worth trying eating small portions often for a couple of days and maybe reviewing your carb and salt levels. It might be you need just a little more of both.
    If you can share you eating patterns, I’m sure we can offer some more constructive thoughts and suggestions.
    Do you best with what you have in the house today and hope you will soon be feeling better.

  • posted by  Ria-tor on ONE WEEK AT A TIME beginning March 19th 2019
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    Hi

    Hope your appointment goes well kafin13

    I’m late checking in this week. It’s week 4 and I’m absolutely exhausted. I’ve not bothered filling in my food app or planning my meals, just no energy. I had a dizzy spell yesterday whilst I was out and had to abandon grocery shopping, so goodness knows what I’ll have for dinner tonight as there is nothing in suitable for the plan.
    Today I felt so hungry mid afternoon I was nauseous and I had to have a snack. The first time since I started this woe I’ve been hungry between lunch and dinner. I had 3 pilli nuts, which were cocoa dipped, walnuts would probably have been a better choice but they weren’t cocoa covered.

    Take care all
    Toria

  • posted by  SunnyB on Positive Thoughts Thread Anyone?
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    How wonderful to see so many positives being posted already today.
    V – like the sound of the miracle neck cream, please be sure to report back on it. I mark my own shawarma spice mix, which changes slightly every time, but there are lots of shawarma recipes on line, this is a good one:
    https://www.jocooks.com/recipes/oven-roasted-chicken-shawarma/
    Skipping – Wow, that is quite a list of achievements before 9.30 – made me feel quite worn out!!! You’ll be needing that clean sheet feeling tonight.
    Budgie – so pleased that you are reaping the benefits of this WOE so markedly. Was puzzled by the marks at the end of your post, but have just realised these are budgie foot prints – cute!
    Too early in the day for me to be posting positives, but I will be back later to offer some. Thank you to everyone who has already given us a positive boost this morning.

  • posted by  sixturkeys on Positive Thoughts Thread Anyone?
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    Hi Verano – I’d forgotten today is the Spring Equinox! Do let us know about the miracle neck cream (and if there is a miracle all over body one……). I used the Shawarma recipe from the BBC Food site (it’s a Nigella one) and the Ottoelenghi Marbella (also just by googling). Skipping that is a very productive start to the day! And indeed “Happy Day” to all.

  • posted by  TheBudgie on Positive Thoughts Thread Anyone?
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    Hi all,
    My energy yesterday was crazy I had it to spare, my walking parts of my commute to work are a lot quicker I am actually overtaking people now, which is more impressive as I have both feet in cast! At my volunteering group last night I could actually keep up with the kids, stand for both sessions without needing to sit and actually joined in one of the dances. This WOE is giving me all the positives so far I need to carry on, starting to actually enjoy life again.

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