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  • posted by  Dominic71 on After the blood sugar diet…
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    Hi I started the BSD 6 days ago and I am doing great, I am either going to do the 8 week plan or the 12 week, haven’t fully decided yet. The only issue is that after seeing a few youtube videos there seems to be a lot of concern over destroying your metabolism. At the moment I am doing a 16 hour fast and then have one 400 calorie meal and then at the end of the eight hours I have a Huel shake which is another 400 cals. Which finishing with this 800cal diet I was planning on doing a 5:2 diet. 1600 and 800 cals. so I can continue to lose weight. I am also exercising at the moment and burning around 350cals per day.
    Can anyone tell me if they have had issues with their metabolism after this diet and if so what did they do?
    Many Thanks

  • Oh Tulip-clare I much much prefer running fasted. Best runs are weekends at 10am powered only by 2 cups of coffee with milk. Todays cheeky 5k was powered on a black coffee, a white coffee and 8 wee pickled onions! Interestingly, when ive done a full fast day, even if i eat before i run i find it so so difficult – i think its electrolyte issues but still, running on 14hr fast is good.
    Would it help if you set ‘boundaries’ on your non-fast days just to stop you going wild? I basically just upped the quantity of what i ate and had 2 substantial meals a day but still BSD friendly and kept carbs as low as i could – worked August to Dec last year for maintenance….. i just went a bit off course since January…..

    Ruby – yup distraction all the way! another 30 mins of work, then will go ride a horse or two….. then dinner, then maybe a wee walk…..
    LOL at the sugarsnaps and blueberries….. bless. Crackers it is then! You could do cheese n chilli ones and maybe date and coconut ones….bit of a ‘sweet’ option!? Good challenge. Your trip sounds lovely. Hope you have a great time.

  • Hi Again everyone,
    Well, I did gain a 2 lbs over easter instead of buying chocolate for the family I went to the boulangerie and got strawberry tarts and mini eclairs for dessert! It was a choice to relax for a few days so getting back in the swing of things but feeling very tired and finding it hard to get motivated to exercise! Has anyone else experienced tiredness in the early weeks of embarking on this?
    Anyway, I am determined to keep going and good luck to everyone else too, my skirt is hanging up where I can see it every time I to the bathroom and I want to get back into it properly {without leaving three top buttons undone and wearing a long top to cover it !} by June.
    Summer is coming……………………………………………..

  • Hi Everyone,

    Loving all the posts, epiphanies etc we have along the way- I definitely struggle with moderation too (Julz I think mentioned this), which is where my ‘5’ days are a bit of a struggle, and pretty much negating any loss I get on my ‘2’ days, and I’m generally feeling a bit yuk, which I don’t think some extra sneaky carbs have been helping….so, I was thinking yesterday that perhaps rather than my 2 days, Mon and Thurs, this week, I should maybe do an extra day or 2 up until my parents visit for the day on Friday and then the weekend, when I prefer things a bit more relaxed. Just feel my body needs a bit of a reset and would be nice to work on those few pounds I need to get more comfortably into normal BMI (I am right at the top of normal BMI- a major feat in itself which I am thrilled with- having lost 3 stone 3 lbs on this WOE since last June). So the question I am working on, is do I do Mon- Thurs, for a good reset, or maybe 3 days…..there is a wee issue with a possible slice of lemon drizzle cake at work tomorrow- it’s my favourite cake, and my colleague, who is an excellent baker, brought some in today- so I cut a little slice and wrapped it to eat tomorrow, because today is an 800 cal day- it’s one of those treats that I allow occasionally- homemade really excellent cake- BUT, I feel like this is bad for my body right now….maybe I should freeze it and save it for another time?!!

    I am off for a run this afternoon Julz- sometimes I think I run better on a low cal day, powered by a snack of one brazil nut- and sometimes I feel like my body is failing to get the energy from where it should!! We will see how today goes 😂😂. I think my runs are not as long as yours tho- generally between 2 and 8k at the moment.

    Love to all, Clare xxxxx

  • Seed crackers – Tom Kerridge recipe for linseed crackers made with egg whites – they were good! That’ll help with texture changes too.
    Sugarsnap peas and blueberries ain’t gonna cut it with the driver 😉 – navigator maybe…..
    Planet Rock is our music of choice, so that’s covered, but he prefers to do a +200-miler with no stops – we will be visiting our cottage for the first time in 6 months and visiting family (outdoors of course) oop north.

    Can you distract yourself until supper time? The hours between finishing work and supper are my danger time too.

  • Hey, RubyG, great how much things have changed for the positive.
    How about making some seed crackers for the car journey? And a wee bag of sugarsnap peas and maybe some blueberries. along with your egg muffins you’ll be sorted for all eventualities. Then maybe focus more on music or podcasts you can listen to so its not all food focused? Love looking at it as a challenge rather than a problem, you can work it out and make it through the journey.

    I’m so looking forward to being able to do some cross border travel. Scotland is being pretty slow about it all and we are only supposed to stay in our local authority boundaries, so being allowed to visit friends and family in England looks a long way off! I was planning a wee trip to a friend and to my brother last october but that didnt get to happen. Maybe this year.

    Snacky craving time of day approaching….. now is the dig deep few hours til dinner time!

  • Hi WindyJulz, I am glad you’ve found your “now”, it’s a good headspace to be in. In 2 weeks’ time it will be 6 months since I stumbled on this way of eating and this forum, and I cannot believe the change in our lives in that time.

    Next weekend will be our first really big challenge, as we have a long road trip ahead of us (we can finally move around the country), and previously hubby would have fueled on chocolate bars and a fizzy drink, so this needs to look totally different. I will make ham and egg “muffins” – ham-lined muffin case filled with an egg and baked in the oven and some other protein/fat options which are properly low-carb (not energy bars marketed as protein or low carb, which are not suitable). The key is him keeping his concentration for driving, and not needing to stop for a loo break every half an hour, so coffee intake is limited (an iced espresso with cream may work?)

  • I’ve been quiet…..apologies….. i seem to have been really struggling to get going and I was fed up enthusiastically being in for the week and then struggling by wednesday / thursday….. so ive done some contemplating.
    It came to me at about 4am on Saturday morning…….. a few weeks back i tried some alternate day fasting but it really affected my running so i let myself keep having some carbs (oats, occasional chips and chocolate – i know!! Winter has been mentally tough) Anyway, I keep ‘starting over’ on a Monday… and by Wednesday or Thursday i am effectively fighting the day 3 /4 daemons which we know exist adn that days 3 and 4 are the hardest for newbies…. and because i keep caving and giving way to some oats or chocolate or crackers I was never getting past the hard days and back to the ‘easier’ fab burning days. So as of Saturday, i proper committed to low carb adn recognised day 3 and 4 would be hard and that i’ll neeed to dig deep and force myself past that to find the better days that i know are there. I always know i am good to go when i decide i’m starting again “now” – not next week, on monday, after such-and-such a treat etc and that was me on Saturday. HAd a much better weekend and know that it is crunch time today and tomorrow but i am pretty motivated. Went for a run at lunchtime to boost the endorphins, delay lunch and make the point to myself. Egg wrap with pork for lunch and I’m good! Will keep busy tonight and not cave……!!!!
    Funny how even now, 12 months on, i still have lightbulb moments!!
    As i have know all along really, im in Wendy’s camp of knowing I’m a proper carb addict and i really cant let them back in as the moderation button fails epically! Also need to be careful of nuts and cheese!! 🙂

    Anyhoo….we got a new fridge-freezer today which means the fridge is just about empty, nuts are finished, no chocolate available…… so we are on course!

    I have been reading all the posts and really appreciate those who have kept it going whilst I sort my brain out! You are all awesome!

  • Hi all,
    Checking in for the end of this week. The UK restrictions are easing, but the weather is not playing ball – after a balmy spring day on Easter Sunday, we have had snow showers on and off last week, and again the last couple of days. I have no desire to go rushing off to a pub (outdoors) this week, but we are hoping to meet up outdoors with some family members next weekend. The UK has offered lateral flow tests free to each household to assist with self-testing, so I have a pack and we will self-test the day before seeing any elderly relatives, or before going into the office or on site visits, etc. The recommendation is to test twice-weekly, and we’ve both had our first vaccine a couple of weeks ago, so it is feeling like we may be able to expand our horizons a bit beyond our home.

    I am still wading through the book “Why We Get Fat” and it is starting to make sense.

    This weekend we had some carbs on Saturday (our one slice of wholemeal sourdough on Saturday morning, a Scotch egg each for lunch and 3 Jersey Royals each with supper. Yesterday it was back to low-carb veg only, and tomorrow we weigh, so I’ll report in. However, some NSV – a size 36 Barbour Border that I bought many years ago (second-hand of course) when I lost weight on WW fits nicely again after not being to zip it up for the last few years, and I have donated my Size 42 one to hubby, as his Size 48 now looks like a tent! And this morning I ran out of holes, in a good way, on my favourite leather belt, so I may be finding the leather punch later this evening.

    Have a good start to the week wherever you are, and I’ll see you all on next week’s thread!

  • Hi everyone ! I hope you have had a good weekend and are feeling motivated for this coming week . I didn’t mange to continue my fasting protocol last week , it just didn’t work so having another go at alternate days this week.

    Hopefully Lauren is having a wonderful time in the tree house in Bath !

    Riccoh, you have some lovely holiday plans ! We especially loved Tasmania, just stunning . One day we will get back there . Right now we don’t even know if we can travel to the UK this summer . It’s not looking good but staying positive .

    Smead/ Samantha , as HopefulinOz has said, a loss of 9 to 10% of body weight is considered normal over the initial 8 weeks . That was my experience too but things definitely slowed down after a while . I agree, I think it is important to look at the considerable long term health benefits rather than a more rigid time scale of weight loss. Very sensible advice, HopefulinOz. We must remember that maintenance has to be carefully managed too .

    Dahfi , I hope you are feeling better after your hangry episode . It will pass and is a classic symptom of carb withdrawal .

    Some people are still a bit quiet ( they are maybe checking in on other threads ?) I hope everyone is ok . Restrictions are easing in the Uk which must feel good .

    I will be back later to set up the new weekly thread .
    Wendy x

  • Hi Samantha,
    I am sure that far more experienced people, with far more knowledge than me, will be along soon. However, I think it is so subjective – without a doubt it will depend on your starting weight, how much you have to lose, your medical history, your level of insulin resistance etc. I was just watching an interview with MM and his wife, and they cited an average weight loss of 9.5kg over 8 weeks, but I have also read that the loss over the first 4 weeks is the best indicator of long term results. At the end of the day, though, I do believe that as long as you are making progress and you are feeling good, try not to worry too much about how many weeks or days it will take. Your body will do whatever it needs to do to heal, and as you know, the weight loss is rarely linear – you will likely have days where you lose nothing, followed by big losses later when your body is ready (the whoosh effect). You are doing amazingly 🙂

  • posted by  ClarinetCathy on Jive to July
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    Just checked through my stats and my lightest weight since April 2019 is 140 lb which was in May 2019 when it all started to go in the wrong direction so that is my first goal – to be my lightest since then. SueBlue it has highlighted to me what an amazing achievement you have accomplished, to be lighter than you have been in the last two years! Well done you! That’s a fantastic achievement especially during a global pandemic! My lightest weight was in 2017 when I achieved 130 lb! I won’t be seeing that again but I would like to see 135 lb! I can dream!

  • posted by  ClarinetCathy on Jive to July
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    Mariet- great to see your happy news this morning. The dance off is doing it’s thing! Well done on losing 1.5 lb.

    I will weigh myself tomorrow to see if I’ve lost anything. I weighed before my Easter chocolate Orange and hot cross bun debacle so I don’t have an accurate first day of the new journey for comparison but as long as I see some Reduction from my last weigh in I will be more than happy. Week 2 begins tomorrow for me and it’s a shake for lunch today and something low carb for teatime. I didn’t do a shake yesterday,I finished off the Halloumi bake at lunchtime – I thought it might be good to mix things up a bit.

    SueBlue- well done on your morning walking regime- that’s a great start to each day and will definitely have an impact on your weight loss. How fantastic to be at your lowest weight for two years. I am going to look at my two yearly stats so that I can plot what my lowest weight needs to be – something to work towards. A great idea.

    Have a great week everyone. Week 2 of our Jive to July – will be great to see how everyone has done. I’ll post my weight tomorrow and hope I’m on my way to losing 4lb during April.

  • posted by  SueBlue on Jive to July
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    Well done Mariet, sounds like you are off to a great start 🙂
    My weigh in day is a Friday, and when I weighed myself last Friday I had put on 1/2kg since the week before – no surprises there as I had indulged over Easter. I weighed again this morning and was surprised to see I had lost 700g over the weekend, so feel like I’m back on track. I’m now at my lowest weight in over 2.5 years.
    I’ve been walking 4-5km each morning with my youngest daughter and am really enjoying that. My eating has been a bit off plan but I’ve been keeping calories low. I’m back on plan today though, Pear & Cinammon porridge for breakfast, mushroom soup for lunch and bolognaise with Slendier soy bean spaghetti for dinner. I love the Slendier spaghetti, it’s low calorie, low carb and makes a change from zucchini noodles which I usually have.
    Hope everyone had a good weekend, it was sad to hear of Prince Philip’s passing, although 99 is a good innings,
    I do feel for the Queen, it would be hard to lose a partner after so long together.

  • posted by  Mariet on Jive to July
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    Hi everyone, I hope you’ve had a good weekend! Like CC I’m feeing very good, I’ve had a great start to the dance off 🙂
    for the first time this year, I have started Monday at a lighter weight than I was on Friday. It’s a great feeling because weekends are my downfall. I’ve just checked on the blood monitor and I am still firmly in ketosis and though always slow to discard weight I’m down 1.5lb which is making me happy as well.
    Looking forwadrd to seeing how veryone is going.

  • I love reading everyone’s posts and it is good to see how the BSD is so different for everyone.
    I have started week five and have lost 6.3 kgs from a starting weight of 83.6 and I can really feel the difference. My first goal was to see my feet again when standing and looking past my tummy, and I am so pleased that this has been achieved. Now to see the colour of my underwear when standing is the next goal.
    It still amazes me how the scales show nothing for close to a week and then you get a drop. Thanks to those who taught me to trust and not get disheartened.

    You guys are a wealth of knowledge…..so any idea on whether a loss of 15% of your weight over 8 weeks is really achievable? Or am I expecting too much.
    Samantha.

  • You are doing wonderfully GoforGoal. 6.4kg loss in 4 weeks is definitely great progress. Congratulations 🙂
    I am 1kg down this week, which seems to be the average loss I have settled into after the first few weeks. I had a blip one night this week, so I am quite pleased with that result. Started at 68kg five weeks ago, currently 63.5kg, with first mini-goal of 60kg and final goal weight of 55kg (I am very short at only 156cm, so 55kg is in the middle of a healthy BMI for my height). I am really not too worried if my progress is a bit slower than some others are lucky enough to report, because this really is the most successful weight loss stint I have ever had. Losing weight has always been very difficult for me, so I am absolutely thrilled to have found something that my body seems to be responding to.
    JGwen, I ordered the breathalyzer last night, so will be very interested to see my results. I am currently sticking to less than 20g carbs a day, so certainly am assuming I am in ketosis, but feel it will be a particualrly handy tool to have at my disposal once I hit my goal weight and enter a maintenance phase. I am assuming that the best plan then (to maintain) will be to increase calories slowly to my TDEE, but to not increase carbs to any point that kicks me out of nutritional ketosis….. so essentially, fill the gaps with healthy fat sources, rather than more protein than is needed for my ideal bdy weight, and definitely not with too many carbs. It will be very interedting to see what my personal limit is for carbs. I have been watching some of Dr Fungs videos with great interest.
    Wishing you all a wonderful start to the new week!
    Donna.

  • Hi everyone,
    hope you’re enjoying the weekend.
    Welcome Dahfi, you’re doing great! First week is the toughest but it will get easier after that. Riccoh, enjoy your trip to the Blue Mountains -sounds amazing! I wonder if the eucalypt forests there create a nice minty smell too – I have no idea!
    Week 4 results: Saturday weigh-in: 105.6kg. Loss this week: -0.2kg. Only a tiny loss. It was the Easter with its red wine, dessert, even potato mash, but no regular choc – I made Clare Bailey´s 85% chocolate covered dates filled with coconut and orange zest. Had a great Easter with the fam. Got to do better now there are no celebrations in sight. Total loss after 4 weeks: -6.4kg which is okay. Halfway – bring on the next 4 weeks!
    ODAAT folks!

  • I’ve enjoyed and learnt a lot from this week’s posts. Had a good Easter. No chocolate but did have a delicious hot cross bun fresh from the local bakery. A bit stressed earlier in the week and overdid it on the nuts. I, too, eat more when stressed. Like RubyG I am tempted by peanut butter and cheese.Does that mean my diet is lacking something. II’ve read that’s why we crave certain things. Lately we’ve been cycling through the lettuce wraps on the Fast 800 cookbook for our dinners. I make enough for both of us for 4 days. We started doing this as we have an abundance of lettuce in our vege garden. We don’t wrap the fillings but cut up the lettuce and add it. Not sick of this yet. It is getting colder here in Australia so hot dishes might be the way to go soon. I love the mushroom soup from the cookbook.

    We have lots of holidays planned, one every month except October. All in NSW except a trip to Tassie in Nov/Dec to spend time with our eldest son and his family. We haven’t seen them since mid 2019.

    I have started wearing an elasticised bracelet. There is a psychological trick that addicts use, snapping a rubber band on their wrist if they have a craving. I consider myself a food addict but its hard of course because we can’t go cold turkey. We need to eat!! I’ve only just started wearing it but it seems to be working. And its not ugly like and elastic band. I have heard of using a talisman or something similar, too, and keeping it in your pocket. You would touch it if you needed strength. There are also Chakra or similar bracelets that would have a placebo effect in stopping cravings.

    Anyway, have a good week. I’m off to the Blue Mountains next week so I hope I can stay on track while we’re away.

  • posted by  ClarinetCathy on Jive to July
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    Hello everyone
    I feel I have had a great start to our jive to July – the time just feels right for me after a rubbish start to 2021. The thread is lively and we are all very focused on the task ahead. The first three days are always the worst for me. I was in ketosis yesterday and I feel that I am well on the way to making the next three months really count. Hopefully, we are moving towards the end of lockdown here in the UK; the North West where I live seems to have been locked down for a very, very long time and I hope there are brighter times ahead. I listed a few lovely summer clothes for sale on eBay a few weeks ago as they were too tight to wear but I’ve taken them off today in the full knowledge that I’ll be fitting back into them by July! I also tried some of my summer items on just to gauge how they’ll look and I know that by the time I will be wearing them I will be at least 10lb lighter so they’ll look good. How is that for optimism! There was no Friday night treat for me last night. I usually sit down with a large G&T and a packet of crisps and/or nuts on a Friday night. Instead, I had a large glass of sparkling water. Today it will be a coffee shake for lunch and I’ll make the Halloumi bake from the Fast 800 recipe book for my evening meal – I haven’t eaten any cheese all week so that will be a lovely treat. I am excited to see what I weigh on Tuesday.

    Let’s keep going one day at a time, one meal at a time and let’s to do our best every day. I am committed to trying hard to lose 4lb a month for the next three months.
    Have a good weekend everyone.

    Cathy

  • posted by  Yowzer49 on Jive to July
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    Happy weekend,dear Jive Hive jivers!
    BUSYBEE,yes,100% correct! The Cavern Stomp began because the place was so packed there wasnt enough room to jive! I loved that dance! My older sister saw the as yet unknown Beatles play regularly,and always came home raving about them! My Dad told her,ugh,beetles!? don’t go down there….!
    A few years later,it was me going to the lunchtime and evening sessions,watching all the local bands play. I loved that smell! 🎶❤️🎶 Theres still a great music scene in Liverpool. (Well there was before the pandemic.)
    Ps Sorry about the “all our yesterdays” folks,from us old hipsters. Coincidentally,not only did Brian Epstein see the Beatles play for the first time on my 12 th birthday ( and the rest is history) but John Lennon met Yoko on my seventeenth bday!

    Totally agree,BUSY🐝,having a shake is less faff and less washing up to do ..yeah yeah yeah!😀😀😀😀
    Lets keep those trotters moving, dancing the weekend away. How about we all do the Harlem Shuffle today! X 🎶❤️🎶

  • posted by  Busybee on Jive to July
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    Yes I remember the Cavern Stomp and actually danced it in the dark and slightly smelly Cavern Club back in the sixties!
    I seem to think it was started as there wasn’t much room to move in there and jiving was impossible.
    I’m dancing my way through the week and too find that having a shake at lunchtime saves time and effort.
    Have a good weekend everyone and keep on dancing O.D.A.A.T.
    X B

  • posted by  Yowzer49 on Positive Thoughts Thread Anyone?
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    Oh gosh LAUREN, i think we’re twins ..I fall over all the time. Ive fractured both wrists twice each,and one time fell onto my chin and had a massively bruised jaw. Ive even fallen off the pavement into the main road,and every time,Im sober. Ive even pulled my Beau over with me two or three times. I too fall over nothing. Its just my balance and co ordination is very poor.
    Night night everyone and good day to our friends in Oz xxxx

  • posted by  Dreamscometrue on Jive to July
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    Gosh Linda sounds like you’ve been through a lot with your brother. I hope you have some support around you to help you move forward from all this. And, as part of that, I hope that this thread can help you and your hubby to achieve your weight loss goals.

    Sadly I’ve had a bit of an epic fail evening with both my carb monsters – wine and chocolate – elbowing their way in. Aaargh!! But tomorrow is another day.

    Sad news in the UK about The Duke of Edinburgh. I’m not particularly a royalist but it just feels like yet another sad thing that’s happened recently. Hopefully happier times to come for everyone.

    Stay safe and well people, and I wish you a successful weekend in your lifestyle and weight loss goals X

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    Haha Yowser my major problem is I’m an absolute clutz (doofwomble puffinbear as Craig calls me) and fall over nothing resulting in injuries…..but I also love shoes. I have several pairs of gorgeous shoes in really bright colours that are too high for me to ever wear again but I can’t bring myself to sell them because they are so pretty!

    My positive for today is that I had a dream of a crafting project which actually seems possible – I dreamed of making a wet felt background of moody skies around Mount Fuji with a needle felted cherry blossom tree in the foreground. I reckon I can actually do it so I think I’ll start when I’m back from my holiday!

  • posted by  Yowzer49 on Positive Thoughts Thread Anyone?
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    Enjoy that fresh bed SUNNY,nothing nicer..and Happy Anniversary and Birthday to the Senior Sunnys! 🥰
    Oooh a treehouse,how exciting LAUREN! X
    I have shoe issues too….so hard to find suitable ones. Glad youve ended up with beauties for yr wedding but sad youve arthritis. I have arthritis in my feet and plantar fascitis and one foot slightly bigger than the other. 😀
    Plus very swollen ankles and knees due to lymphoedema which all adds up to me wearing trousers and flats constantly. As Mother of the Bride a few years ago I had such trouble finding a nice outfit and wearable flats. Ended up with lovely jacket and matching long skirt,and comfy but quite glam flat strappy sandals. As Im five two and dumpy, and as the skirt had to be long enough to be sure to cover my ugly ankles, I cdnt really do the lovely ensemble justice..I looked like I was floating round on castors as my feet could hardly be seen 🙄🙄 and had a rather tent like silhouette…*sigh*
    Anyway gone on for long enough so won’t post positives..just a thought for the weekend
    “ If you are more fortunate than others,build a longer table not a taller fence” 💕💛💚💕

  • posted by  LindaandHubby on Jive to July
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    Sunshine girl. Sadly I disagree with you about the fact that someone can cause you SO much stress that they can bring on diabetes to you OR heart attacks etc. Intense stress is an awful thing & can cause many health problems. There is NO history whatsoever of diabetes in mam’s side of the family. In fact most females in the family live at least into their mid eighties if not longer. Her sister now 92 was gadding around the world until Covid stopped her, she was also playing bowls into her 80’s & was women’s champ (at over 80) in Queensland.

    Let’s just say my darling brother borrowed many, many thousands from mum & wanted yet another shed-load of money for yet another business (he went bankrupt twice! He spent money like water, changing carpets and luxury furniture it seemed like every year & always buying the ‘best of the best’). He had a hissy fit when she told him – not again & stopped her seeing his kids altogether. Mum was SO distressed (More distressed than she was when my dad passed from Bowel Cancer after 10yrs of her caring for him). He came out to see her a few times trying to get her to change her mind, being totally obnoxious & telling her that she was dead to him & his family. In this time her hair went totally white, her problem with diabetes started etc. She couldn’t give him any more money as she was the warden of an OAP complex with tied in accommodation & was due to retire so would have to buy another property, Dad had built us a house BUT mum had to sell it & move into the complex’s house as dad was self employed as a ‘proper’ builder & could get no help from the state whatsoever – although he was well entitled to as the last 5 years he was bed-bound, The week after he died they asked him for another medical! Mum had given him so much money that she applied for a council flat as couldn’t afford the semi detached houses that she wanted (bear in mind that we had a large detached house in a large plot). I’d given up my business to look after her & left my house empty. Mum was very independent so wouldn’t move into my place. Thankfully I’d always earned good money so I could afford to do this for her. Brother was told she was moving near him (0.5 miles away) so he came around, brought the kids & did help her have the flat brought up to a high standard (NOT at cost, I think he added on quite a few thousand). The day she passed away he went through the flat like a whirlwind, taking all papers etc. on her investments. Her brother & sister were horrified but that didn’t stop him.

    What he did to us I’ll write later as have to go help hubby

  • Lauren, thanks for the very detailed explanation of the effects of stress, I’m sure it was of interest to lots of us.
    SG, you’ve been doing great, so I’m sure you’ll do fine over the weekend.
    Ruby, sounds like things are going well and you have a solid plan for a good BSD weekend.
    My week thus far has been okay and the scales and clothes show progress …. just a bit more to do. Tonight is ‘date night’, but will try hard not to let that become permission for an indulgent weekend.

    Enjoy your weekend whatever you’re doing.

  • Lauren, thanks for the very detailed explanation of the effects of stress, I’m sure it was of interest to lots of us.
    SG, you’ve been doing great, so I’m sure you’ll do fine over the weekend.
    Ruby, sounds like things are going well and you have a solid plan for a good BSD weekend.
    My week thus far has been okay and the scales and clothes show progress …. just a bit more to do. Tonight is ‘date night’, but will try hard not to let that become permission for an indulgent weekend.

    Enjoy your weekend whatever you’re doing.

  • posted by  SunnyB on Positive Thoughts Thread Anyone?
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    Lauren, like the sound of your recipe, will give that a whirl. Also like the Catmando … made me smile🙂. Glad you’ve settled on wedding shoes you really love after all that hassle.
    Yowser, great quote, thanks for sharing.
    Busy, you’re not alone in wanting to feel and look good in what you wear …. doesn’t matter how old you are. Sounds like you’re in for a fun if busy week next week … enjoy!

    Positives from my little corner ….
    🙂 more than half way through blacking the metal spindles, ready for installation on the new staircase.
    🛏 put clean sheets on the bed today …. looking forward to climbing into them tonight.
    📞 all online gifts purchased for Mum and Dad’s anniversary today and Dad’s birthday tomorrow arrived with them safely. Lovely chat with them today to wish them well.
    🌸 more summer bulbs arrived today, ready for a good planting session!

    Have a wonderful weekend everyone…. look out for those positives and come tell us about them.

  • posted by  RubyG on Jive to July
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    I will put myself in the no-shakes camp – a few years back some colleagues went through the Jason some-one smoothie phase, and my comment was that I prefer to chew my food while I’m still able – then I realised I have soup for lunch most days!
    I have also found that soup of the same carbs/cals somehow seems more satisfying than a salad, it must be a temperature thing with me.
    Have a good weekend everyone.

  • Who knew – this diet actually works when you follow it 🙂
    I am pleased to announce that the Easter detour is back on track and we are both down week-on-week again, after a very disciplined 800cals and <30g carbs for the past 3 days.
    The weekend menu plan hasn’t been finalised, but I bought some fresh mussels for tonight, and we’ll probably have steak (onglet) and salad on Saturday night.
    Saturday morning we have our one slice per week of wholemeal sourdough with poached egg, and Sunday morning we have a full English (bacon, eggs, tomatoes and mushrooms, sometimes a piece of black or white pudding or a lamb’s kidney for hubby) – we have done this since starting the BSD in Oct 2020 and so far so good.

  • posted by  RubyG on New, starting BSD TODAY!
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    Weigh-in today:
    Hubby – 17st 4.2lb
    Me – 11st 9.2lb
    Who knew – this diet actually works when you follow it 🙂
    I am pleased to announce that the Easter detour is back on track and we are both down week-on-week again, after a very disciplined 800cals and <30g carbs for the past 3 days.
    The weekend menu plan hasn’t been finalised, but I bought some fresh mussels for tonight, and we’ll probably have steak (onglet) and salad on Saturday night.
    Saturday morning we have our one slice per week of wholemeal sourdough with poached egg, and Sunday morning we have a full English (bacon, eggs, tomatoes and mushrooms, sometimes a piece of black or white pudding or a lamb’s kidney for hubby) – we have done this since starting the BSD in Oct 2020 and so far so good.

  • posted by  Dreamscometrue on Jive to July
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    Hi everyone, and a special hello and welcome to all those who have joined us recently for the first time.

    Cathy and Yowzer I’ll be interested to see how you get on with the shakes. I’ve never really considered things like that as in my mind I prefer “real” food. But these sound really well balanced and nutritious – probably more so than some of the lunches I throw together! And I also have a concern that in trying to keep carbs and calories low, I also risk missing out on some of the nutrients that my body needs. So do keep us posted as to how you get on. I could certainly do with a bit of variety to kickstart the next phase of weight loss.

    I do remember the Hippy Shake song but not the Cavern Stomp! And agree that dancing is a great way to enjoy keeping fit. For some reason I just never do it. I think part of it is that with lockdown etc I very rarely have time on my own. Which is lovely in one way, but also a bit restricting for opportunities such as dancing madly round the living room! There is often music on in our house – all kinds of genres – just not much dancing space in any sense of the word. Maybe time to change that too 😉

    Have a fab weekend everyone X

  • Hi everyone. Florob great when you can put your skills to good use. Mine is a bit more frivalous. We won our local charity online quiz on Wednesay. Mainly because in one section there were 10 quetions on the human body and, being an ex-nurse, we got them all right. Not quite altruism.

    Still here and still doing TRE, nothing to report as I havent lost any more weight, not dropped BG levels (79 today) and kept insulin at 20 units. Now got to get through the weekend. Have a good one everyone.

  • posted by  sunshine-girl on Jive to July
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    Hi everyone. Linda, I am sure you know whatever your relationship with your brother, he didnt cause yours or your mums diabetes. In fact, your grandparent was the original cause, then your mother. With that familial history you are somewhere in the region of being 60% at risk of developing T2 as was your brother. You may not be aware that this will now also apply to any children you might have.
    He may be a s$$t but he is not to blame. Just wanted to get that out there for others which might believe that someone can cause or give you diabetes. The main reasons are 1. family i.e. grandparents, then parents, 2. overweight or obese and waist circumference, 3. lack of exercise, 4. race or ethnicity (some races are more prone to T2). Although the Mayo Clinic lists overweight as being number one cause there is a lot of evidence that having a blood relative with it will probably give you a higher risk but it is also that you have probably grown up with very similar lifestyles i.e. similar diet, exercise regimes, smokers or not, risk of heart disease, stroke and high cholesterol can all lead to you being the unlucky one. Which is why it is recognised that it can be prevented by change of lifestyle. My mother had type 2 and it was around 30% chance I would be too with one parent. I drill it into my daughter that she needs to be aware of her risk factors having a grandparent and a parent with T2 makes her risk even greater than mine. There is a lot of disputed evidence on this subject so I expect people to disagree but it is certain that someone being annoying cannot cause it.

    Less serious, songs – Oh For Goodness Sake…… yes I remember the Hippy Hippy Shake by the Swinging Blue Jeans and I love to dance. My go to dance music now is more likely Dua Lipa and co-singers as I love that South American rhythm. Shake those hippy hippy hips baby – I was a hippy back in the day and definitely hippy now, in a different way.

  • posted by  Yowzer49 on Jive to July
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    CCATHY Im glad youre finding ways to enjoy the banana! Im ok with the banana but Ive got a chocolate one,which since buying ive read unanimous reviews saying it tastes awful,so Im guessing I’ll need to tweak that somehow. It IS expensive but plant based and full of good things and meal by meal isnt too bad moneywise.
    Salted caramel is nice and vanilla is ok too.
    I introduced my daughter and we both got £10 each off our orders.
    Theres a forum called Reddit..you don’t have to join to read the threads. Theres one thread where you can read other “ Hueligans” thoughts and get tips and info. If you put r/huel in the search box it will come up.
    Im enjoying less meal prep and less washing up! And its nice knowing Im not the only one here doing one shake one meal!
    BUSYBEEs doing it too. Are you finding you get hungry? I havent been,except for yesterday when I was hungry all day long 🙁 xxx

  • posted by  ClarinetCathy on Jive to July
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    Just made the Huel Black banana again for lunch and tweaked it a bit. Added ice and drank it out of a nice glass rather than the massive plastic shaker bottle and it was better. The taste is Ok but it’s the smell I am not too keen on. I’ve committed to doing shakes as an experiment for one month having a shake for lunch so I will keep on doing 800 calories and hope it boosts my weight loss. It cost me £50 for two bags of Huel which apparently last 17 days each. It’s a shame you can’t try a sample of the flavours before committing to buy! I think it might get boring which is ok if I am losing but not ok if it isn’t making a difference. It is good to know that my body is getting good nutrition, however. It certainly simplifies lunch and I actually enjoy my evening meal more so I think it will be a good experiment for me. I feel full and I feel healthy. Fingers crossed for a new number on the scales on Tuesday!

  • posted by  Yowzer49 on Jive to July
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    CCATHY my story’s so similar to yours except I lost more and regained more. 🙄
    I definitely find its harder this time round than first time low carbing,16:8 ing. and I share your disappointment that I allowed myself to regain.
    Finding I had lymphoedema and lipodema in my legs after I lost so much weight everywhere else was a crushing blow. I wish I had dealt with that diagnosis better and maybe I wdnt have started stress eating again.
    I also agree with you that this is definitely the best way for me to lose weight. Tho not so sure longterm whether its very healthy for us given theres so little fruit,limited veg allowed.
    You can do it losing that stone! I know you’ll make it! 🥳😘 ODAAT! X🎶🎶X

  • posted by  ClarinetCathy on Jive to July
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    LindaandHubby- it took me about 9 months to lose my weight- a total of 42lb.. I am a particularly slow loser and although I had an initial good loss, my weight loss was slow and steady. I followed the blood sugar diet but when I started I was very naive and didn’t know as much as I know now so basically just cut out bread, rice, pasta, etc etc. I’ve found the forum so helpful over the years. I have just been looking back at my stats, I have scales that record my progress or more recent lack of progress and it is interesting to read back over the last four years to see my trend and pattern. I really do seem to be struggling this last year to lose any weight hence why I am doing something different with the shakes. I’ve tried 16:8 and intermittent fasting which I think are great for maintenance but I really do want to lose 14lb to be where I was back in 2017. I am going to try really really hard to get my weight down during this next phase of my journey. I have spent the last thirty years dieting and this way was the only way that I achieved such a fantastic weight loss. I am so disappointed that I allowed 14lb back on albeit slowly over the last two years and I am finding it really difficult this time to lose the excess baggage. I think my body is used to eating very little now but I won’t give up!

  • posted by  SueBlue on Jive to July
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    I remember the Hippy Hippy Shake song Yowzer & Busybee – although it was released before I was born! My husband and I often listen to ‘classic’ music on YouTube and this song is one of them 🙂
    And I always tell my daughters that I was so slim as a teenager because I used to spend all night dancing – this was the early 80’s so Boy George, Culture Club, Duran Duran and all that wonderful New Romantic music. But I grew up playing my mum’s 45’s which were 50’s and 60’s rock and roll, and my aunties 70’s records – I like all sorts of music 🙂 It’s Friday night here and I’m listening to Madonna on MTV 🙂

  • posted by  MagicBean on Line drawn – Starting again
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    Hi pashasmum – like you I’ve decided to draw a line too and want to head in the right downwards direction. I too did well with 5:2 and low carbage. Lockdown and stressful family events mean I’m now a whole stone heavier than the last time I decided enough was enough.
    I’d love to buddy up and cheer one another on. Have just been looking at BMI charts and I’m a whisker away from being obese.
    I’ve a long way to go to get to top of healthy range 11 stone 2 ( I’m 5 foot 6) . Current weight is 82 kg or 13 stone and my first mini goal is to get below 80. Want to achieve this within next 3 weeks.
    Have decided on setting mini goals as thinking about the total amount is overwhelming and I don’t want to scuttle off towards something that won’t be helpful
    What are your first mini goals ?
    Good luck
    Magic Bean

  • posted by  Yowzer49 on Jive to July
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    We may well be the only ones BUSYBEE! I prefer the original to the Blue Jeans hit version…I went off the Swinging Blue Jeans when one of them told my friend to f*** off when she spoke to him!
    Original by Chan Romero ..fabulous…
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MlkKB1JlbFg
    PS do you remember doing the Cavern Stomp? X
    All that dancing kept us slim! Could dance all night without even stopping for a drink.