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  • posted by captainlynne
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    Hi Jo. Just noticed that you live in Australia. I don’t know what diabetes care is like there, but can say there appear to be differences around this country.

    I move around a lot because of my work. Originally (mis)diagnosed in London, where diabetes care was great (at least with my practice). After the misdiagnosis was discovered, they checked there records and found I wasn’t the only one – the nurse went for further training! Moved to Devon and diagnosed again (properly this time). Care less good. One locum wanted me on Metformin, BP meds and statins. We agreed to disagree. (I cannot take statins and had no desire to take Metformin- I react badly to some other drugs and didn’t even want to contemplate that one). Another move, to Cornwall. Similar conversations again.

    Then up to northeast England, near Newcastle. At least there they gave me testing supplies on prescription, like London but unlike Devon and Cornwall. Well, they did for a few months. Then stopped for financial reasons.

    Yet another move, to near Durham. Only one doctor’s surgery in the village, so no choice. Not seen the doctor since I arrived June 2015. Diabetes care by nurse. One visit she’s all for the BSD, another visit she’s not. With her colleague sitting in they said this was not sustainable. Wanted me on Metformin and statins. Yet again said I can’t take statins – they don’t agree with me! I’ve even offered to go to speak to the doctor about the BSD, or to talk to a group of diabetics. No answer.

    The NHS wants us to be proactive in our care, but doesn’t give us the tools. While some prescribe testing strips, many don’t. And not everyone can afford to buy them. And most medics still seem to be telling diabetics to eat carbs at every meal. There have been reports that overweight diabetics are going to be referred for bariatric surgery so they will lose weight and ‘reverse’ their diabetes. At a cost of several thousand pounds per patient. But, guess what, they have to go on a low cal diet prior to surgery to lose fat from their livers. Errrr …….?

    On the brighter side – we have a local Health Educator who met me when I had just started the BSD. Next time we met she nearly didn’t recognise me. She spoke to one of my groups about healthy eating – the party line on carbs (I had to glue my mouth shut!). She agrees with what we are doing, but couldn’t say that officially! Next year she’s hoping to be able to speak more openly about low-carbing.

    Others may have different, better, experiences but these are my personal experiences. I hope the system and treatment in Australia (and other countries) is better than here.

    Sorry for the rant, but all we seem to hear is that diabetics are to blame for the funding crisis in NHS. One GP said they would bankrupt the NHS! Yet they are spending (wasting) so much money on treatments that could be avoided (or at least reduced). I wonder just how much money those of us on here have saved the system? I get so frustrated – so apologies again!

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    Hi Jo,

    The UK government has set formal targets for GP’s to reduce the blood sugar levels of diabetic patient to an acceptable level (7%). The goal is for them to get 50% of diabetic patients to this level. This focus on outcomes is highly laudable, as the alternative would be just to monitor the number of people on the register, which moves the focus off effective treatment.

    The potential issue is that like all goal-based processes, it can have unintended consequences and encourage undesirable behaviours, particularly as there is a financial incentive to the practice to meet this goal. Therefore you could argue that if a person is removed from the diabetic register, they no longer “count” as a person who has met the reduced blood sugar level. So from a business perspective, it would make sense to keep someone on the register.

    I believe that this diet appears to reverse the effects of diabetes but to paraphrase CaptainLynne I think that reverting to a more traditional diet would undermine this. My preferred objective is to put the diabetes into “remission”.

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    Hi Jo,
    I have quite a fair bit of weight to lose (at the start, getting on for 29 kg), plus my partner is prediabetic, so I’m doing it to encourage him as well. I started and he could see I was enjoying what I was eating. So he has started too, but he isn’t sticking to 800 calories (more like 1100 to 1200, but he is extremely active) but as I’m the cook and am following the general principle of no starchy carbs, so is he apart from breakfast cereals, though even that is mostly oats for breakfast. He is still drinking too much wine (in my view), though less than before. At least he’s off the beer. Small steps and all… He is slowly getting thinner, and that’s something.

    I’ve had other non-scale victories, so am very happy with that. I’m not as strict as some people on here: not being a diabetic means I don’t have to worry so much about carbs in veg (I am restricting fruit), nor any of the other health-related issues. Plus, as I have a digestive tract issue, I have to eat lots of fibre so I eat more legumes than most people on here. That means I’m not losing as quickly as lots of people, but I’m quite happy with that. I’ve never lost as much on a diet as this, and I’ve never stuck to a diet as long as this. In fact, I’m positively enjoying what I eat and only rarely feel hungry.

  • posted by Jo Gardner
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    captainlynne you have certainly moved a few times and had lots of different experiences. That would be very difficult to get a consistent treatment plan going. I just visit the one doctor about once every three weeks, see the podiatrist once a year for a check-up, the diabetes educator once a year to check my equipment, supplies and latest information etc, the eye specialist once a year, and the clinics nurse once every 3 months to check on my diabetes progress etc to be sure that nothing has been missed by any of the people involved in my care and once every six months to see the clinics nurse to see that everything is being treated in all other areas of my health care. Our blood test machines come free from the government but we pay $6.20 for a year’s supply of test strips (3 strips a week). I’m on the age pension so I only pay the pensioner costs. Our doctor visits are free. People who aren’t on the pension have to pay a much higher price for everything. I consider I am getting excellent care and my doctor is very sensitive and caring in every way. I could never consider bariatric surgery. It would scare me terribly. I’d rather do it on my own.
    JulesMaigret we go on a register too but that is only so we can get government subsidised equipment and medication plus the care from the podiatrist, clinic nurse, diabetes educator and eye specialist once a year for free.
    Ah, so the aim is to put the diabetes into remission. I really thought it might be a cure. But a remission will be good. It could be boring to eat low carb forever though. lol. But I really wan’t to keep my HbA1c’s at a good level. Today’s level was 6. I was disappointed with that but will admit I ate icecream for supper five nights a week in this three month perios. So I have no-one to blame but myself. I’m definitely going to get back into the 5’s in the next test.
    Snoop it sounds like you are doing an amazing job for your partner’s health and for your own. Good on you. Well done. Your partner is very lucky to have your support like that. I mainly do the cooking for myself and my husband. He doesn’t have any dietary type problems so can eat anything he wants too. That’s how I used to eat too until 12 months ago when I was diagnosed with diabetes. So I prepare meals for him that he enjoys and meals for me that I need to be eating well. Sometimes I just want to eat his meal lol. Today I almost gave in and had a bread roll for lunch. It took real willpower to have chicken and salad.

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    Gday all, week 16 done and dusted, happy to report after long week of walking hills and gullies, have lost the 2kg I put on last 2 weeks. Dunno how i stayed away from the ham with the wife gone for the weekend. Weigh in result
    Weight 128.7kg
    Waist 127cm

    Start weight 159.9kg
    Waist 158cm

    3.8kg loss for the week

    Total weight loss to date 31.2kg

    Have a merry and safe christmas all
    Ps any one esle having a freeforall xmas food wise? Im going to compromise having anything I want to eat but staying off the grog.

  • posted by Jo Gardner
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    Congratulations bloke41 what wonderful statistics, and you stayed away from the ham on top of it. Fantastic! You deserve a treat over Christmas. Enjoy yourself!

  • posted by Snoop
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    Hi bloke41, fantastic loss for the week! And congratulations on staying off the ham. You’ve got tremendous willpower. Bet your wife was impressed!

    I’m still going down a bit. This morning was 78.7, so below my target for 1 January. My last weigh-in will be on Tuesday, so I’ll check in again then.

    And yes, I’m going to eat more than the 800 calories and I will be having grog as well! My compromise is that I won’t have as much as in previous years. So long as I am at or below 79.2 on 1 January, I’ll take it as a success.

    I will be picking it back up again on 1 January. Looking forward to 2017 for all kinds of reasons. Get to a healthy weight. Pay off the house loan. Get a bit more house built. Get life-work balance better sorted. Get my veg patch in order. Maybe even make a start on a flower garden!

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    Had a bit of an upward blip this morning, so still at 78.7 kg. Overall loss this year: 10.5 kg. Am very pleased with that. Looking to weigh the same on 1 January. Will check in again next Tuesday to report Christmas damage!
    Meanwhile, hope you all have a great festive season.

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    Merry christmas all, week 17 done and dusted. Thanks snoop and jo hope you both have awesome chrissy. Early chrissy weigh in results before the feastivities begin:
    Weight 128.4 kg
    Waist 127 cm

    0.3 kg loss for the week

    31.5 kg loss to date.

    Have a good one all

    Finally can have some ham, been torture past week cuting up ham for the wife oh and the home made pudding looks the goods.

  • posted by Snoop
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    Hi bloke41,
    Hope you have a fantastic day. No Christmas pud here, but too many other goodies already!
    Happy holidays, everyone.

  • posted by Jo Gardner
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    Merry Christmas Bloke41 and Happy Holiday Snoop. Except for a small serve of plum pud and custard I’ve stayed on the diet. But it’s been a great day. Glad you are both enjoying the day.

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    Christmas damage: up 1.1 kg to 79.8. Could be worse but also could be much better. No chance of weighing 78.7 in five days time, I think. But today is another day and ordinarily I would probably have put on a lot more. Will be starting to dig my veg patch this week. With any luck, that might help!
    Hope you guys are doing OK. Best wishes, everyone, for 2017.

  • posted by bloke41
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    Hi all, week 18 done and dusted, new yesrs weigh in result 128.4kg waist 127cm , same result as last week. Happy about not putting on considering had 3 days of feasts with chrissy, then my brothers name day on 26th and mine on 27th, though I didnt touch the grog. Dont beat ya self up snoop not bad at all for chrissy damage. Got a wedding march 11, to go to, hoping to get done to 110 kg by then. Have a great new year all. 99kg goal feels very far away.

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    Hi bloke41. You’ve done really well. I’ve gone even further backwards. But it was to be expected after yesterday’s blow-out. Today’s weigh-in: 80 kg. Can only go down from here on in! Well, from Tuesday on as I’ve got lunch with friends today. Healthy food but bound to be too much grog.

    Happy New Year to everyone. Anyone thinking vaguely about restarting in January… you know where we are. Looking forward to seeing you all again.

  • posted by Snoop
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    My official weigh-in day and a shock drop after the festivities: 79.1 kg. Still up on before Christmas but down on after 1 January. So that’s a good start.
    Hope you’re all doing OK. Tabletalk, you’ve been on my mind a bit recently. Hope everything is going well.

  • posted by bloke41
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    Hi all, week 19 done and dusted, hope you all had a great new years.

    Weigh in result 125.7kg
    waist 126cm
    2.7kg loss for the week

    34.2 kg loss to date

    Feeling a lot more energy which is great, bit of a battle with my ankle blowing up, looks like gout struck, but still managed to get my walks in. Been watching bit of youtube on my newbute blueray player, on peoples weight loss journeys, gave me alot of determination to keep going.

    Great result with the loss snoop, keep it up.

    Have a good one all

  • posted by Snoop
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    Well, bloke41, I’m not much of a travelling companion for you! Today’s weigh-in: 78.6 kg. At least I am still going down, even if it is very slowly. Haven’t been strict enough since the end of the festivities. Will have to step up the pace a bit this week. Hope you’re doing well.

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    Gday Snoop, thats pretty good going.
    My week 20 is done and dusted

    Weigh in result 125.3kg
    Waist 126cm
    0.4 kg loss for the week

    34.6 kg loss to date

    I have just started taking organic apple cider vinegar with mother, twice a day. Pretty fowl tasting, l have included Honey, lemon & Cinnamon in cup of water to make it a little more palatable. Its supposed to speed up your metabolism, though im not sure if its just a myth. The research out there also suggest to include some Cayenne pepper also, though just cant seem to get my head around that one. Will test out the theory in the coming weeks. Have a good one all.

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    bloke41, I use apple cider as a salad dressing. The idea of drinking it has never really appealed, even with all the additions you mention. How’s your gout doing? That’s a horrible thing to suffer from. Has the vinegar had an impact on that?

    I feel like I’m still in recovery after the festive season, which goes on till 6 January here. And we didn’t even do or eat as much as we normally would. Partly I think it’s to do with the weather (we’ve had weeks of freezing fog) and the short days. It’s been sunny these last few days, though cold, and I’m starting to look forward to spring already. I reckon my metabolism and mood start to pick up around the end of February. So I might pass on the vinegar and just hold on a bit longer!

    Have a great week everyone.

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    Bloke41 I have heard that drinking cider vinegar can also prevent the dawn phenomenon in diabetics and should really trying it instead of having an actual snack. However, I live near a vinegar factory (a very small artisan one not sarsons) where they make lots of wine vinegars with different flavour. I love the blackcurrant flavour and really love pineapple vinegar. You can do a tour where they tell you it is all made from grapes with nothing artificial. So, after starting this diet, I thought something is not right there so when I was next in the boutique buying wine gifts for English friends I looked on the labels of some of these vinegars and they are between 37% and 60% carb mainly made up of sugars. I took the guy to task but he denied there were any sugars so I pointed to the label and he had no answer. My answer was that I didn’t buy anything for myself.

    Back to the apple cider vinegar, yes this is pure vinegar but I also looked on my Vinaigre de Moderna (Balsamic) and that contains sugars in the form of caramel, so just be label wary, not all vinegars are pure and carb free.

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    Gday Snoop & Sunshine Girl, apparently it supposed to also help with inflamation of joints, only being on apple cider vinegar for five days, the gout still in the background niggling but have not had a bad break out yet. I have made a tonic which supposed to help speed up metabolism also , 1tbs organic apple cider vinegar, 1 tbs raw honey, 1 table spoon lemon , 1/4 tea spoon cinnamon and sprinkle of cayenne pepper in a glass of water. Been drinking that every morning on an empty stomach half an hr before breaky, and for the evening l have it without the honey, half an hr before dinner time. I must admit surprisingly l have had a lot more energy in the mornings, and for a weird reason I’m craving this drink now, bizarre indeed. Some people on the YouTube clips out there, state that if your body needs it, it will crave it. I’m thinking its because i have only drunk water for the past 20 weeks and im getting a kick out of the raw honey. Will let you know if it has any effect on my weight loss, planning to stick on it for a month. Also if you’re going to get the apple cider vinegar make sure it’s the organic unprocessed kind that has mother ingredient in it, its looks like cloudy brownish water. Have a good one all.

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    I’ll look out for vinegar with mother in it. All of I’ve ever seen round these parts, though, is the commercial stuff. I used to stick it in my washing machine instead of fabric softener. Worked a treat!

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    Hi Bloke41, My grandmother used to drink cider vinegar every morning claiming it helped her arthritis and that her mother had done the same. She also had whisky on her porridge morning, so probably best not regarded as the fount of dietary advice.

    Before the “beware Big Cider” brigade leap in, I do not endorse or recommend this product or any other similar one. Other condiments are available.

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    Snoop we have the Bragg brand here, only can get it at health food shops, JulesMaigret im hoping to get some relief with my gout, l dont like taking the tablets when l get a attack. Hoping it does the trick

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    Gday all, week 21 done and dusted, and first week of drinking cider vinegar tonic done,
    Weigh in result: 123.7kg
    Waist 126cm
    1.6 kg lost for the week.
    36.2Kg loss to date

    Cider drink definally easier to drink in the morning with the honey. Gout still there in the back ground, though I feel like I have more energy. Have a good one all

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    Today’s weigh-in: 79.8 kg. Up 1.2 kg. Not ideal! But I’ve been slipping recently. Lots of reasons but none of them good excuses. I’m back on the case as of today, bloke41 and anyone else still out there.

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    Gday all, week 22 done and dusted. Thats the spirit snoop back on the band wagan. In the past if I stuffed up I’d end up quitting, trying to learn now not to beat your self about it and just start fresh the next day, though sometimes easier said than done.
    Weigh in result 122.4kg
    Waist 125cm
    1.3kg lost for the week
    37.5kg loss yo date
    I ended up finding a local bee keeper, who ended up being a work mate, so glad, hard to find raw honey thats not processed or heated down. Also found a local organic supplier for my apple cider vinergar supplier. I have increased exercises to 4 days per week and found a good core work out on you tube called A-40, for over 40 year Olds and have continued to do over 10000 steps each day. Some times its hard, though seeing results helps greatly. Im eating bit more, not counting calories though just sticking to piece meat or fish with a heap of veg. Finally people are noticing, which makes it easier as they know now not yo ask for a drink or 4pm sweet treat at work. I got a goal to reach 110kg for my dads surprise 70th birthday which im flying down for in late march. My final goal of 99kg is inching closer and closer. Have a good one all.

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    so it seems the honey you add is not interfering with your weight loss. that’s great. i’ve just started adding ACV to my diet. i tried it before starting BSD and couldn’t stomach it. now i actually like it. some people have suggested adding mineral water and i’m gonna give that a go.

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    Hi Cazza633, i make sure to only take raw unheated, unpasteurized and unprocessed honey, l only take one table spoon each morning with my ACV. Only taking it for the health benefits, hasn’t seem to affect my weight loss journey to date. Must say makes the ACV little more appealing, comparing the mixure l take before dinner without the honey. cheers

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    I have just finished a course on Diabetes the Epidemic and there was a mention of honey being the only true vegetable glucose molecular food as it is processed from the bees collecting pollen from plants and has no process involved. It is pure, but like all sweet things, needs to be used in moderation. I thought all sugars were pure from plants i.e. cane and beet, but when you learn about the processes they go through, they are not pure or natural.

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    sunshine-girl, there’s honey and there’s honey. A lot of supermarket honey is from bees fed sugar at some point during the year, usually winter because the beekeeper has taken so much of their honey that they need to be fed sugar to keep them alive. Honey that does not come from nectar doesn’t contain all the trace elements of what I call ‘real’ honey. Plus, the processing can vary quite a lot. Some honey is heated to make it flow quicker from the comb, thereby likely damaging those valuable trace elements, and most commercial honey is spun at high speeds in what is little more than a centrifuge to release it from the combs, thereby exposing it to a lot of oxygen, affecting its flavour and probably the trace elements.

    bloke41, it sounds like you’ve got fantastic honey there. Me, I’m a wannabe beekeeper!

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    Thanks Snoop, see, once they start messing with our food they take away all the good things. I will be coming to you for my honey.

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    Snoop thats awesome, wouldnt mind doing something like that, but no idea how to go about it and not to sure how the neighbours would be about it. Lucky enough l ended up finding to local suppliers, which one has won a award for his raw honey. Just wondering, does the honey tasted different during the year?

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    Hi bloke41, yes, honey tastes different throughout the year because it depends on the type of flowers the bees have been collecting from. The best person to ask is your current supplier because he’ll know about your local flora and harvesting season(s). To be honest, though, keeping bees is an expensive proposition (I want them for pollinating purposes, not just the honey). If you have a prize-winning supplier already, unless you want the bees for other reasons (pollination, contributing to bee preservation, etc.), you’re probably better off just buying the honey. I live right out in the sticks, so no neighbours to worry about and all the local almond farmers would be very glad for swarms to go off in search of new homes, ideally in all the abandoned hives dotted about the place.

    You’re going great guns on the weight loss. You were saying a while back that 99 kg was looking a long way off. But it is definitely getting closer. You’ve lost a heck of a lot more than you still have to go. Congratulations. I’m a long way away from reaching that stage. But, so long as I’m still progressing, that’s good enough.

    My weigh-in today: 78.4 kg.
    Down 1.4 kg on the last weigh-in, but I suspect some of that was a phantom upwards blip. Very glad to be going back down though.
    Total loss: 10.8 kg – not much overall I guess, but better than nothing!

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    Not my official day to weigh in, but I’m posting this to encourage me to stay on the straight and narrow: 77.8 kg. First time in the 77s for maybe 20 years! Let’s hope it isn’t a false low reading…
    And thanks for continuing to post, bloke41. I post on the 4-week challenge threads too, but this one feels like ‘home’.

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    Congrats Snoop, great effort, bet you feel heaps better for it. I also feel like this thread is home , have dabbled in other threads, but always come back to home. Well be interesting this weekend, we have a friend moving down from Sydney, who’s staying with us for the weekend. Hopefully will get my weigh in done on Sunday morning. I just entered the 1,000 mile challenge for 2017, which l found through one of the threads, its pretty cool get to see where other people in the world go for walks by posting in their closed face book group. So far l have managed to track 196 miles for month of Jan, i am hoping to do around 2,000 miles for my own personal challenge. Have a good one all.

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    Hi Bloke41 and Snoop and sunshine-girl, oh my gosh, HONEY!!! Has turned into my favorite topic in the last couple of months. I bought some “wild” honey from India and got an earful from my daughter about whether it was truly wild, had destroyed wild hives, was treated with anti-fungal agents,, was centrifuged, was watered.. Well, by the time she was done I was one inch high and I’m a Master Gardener so you’d think I was more aware but who knew????? Not me…
    So, I got serious (SERIOUS) about honey and now it’s wild flower, full of pollen, unfiltered, untreated, dark as night and is TOTALLY amazing — I am eating it with full fat Fage yogurt and I have to be strong because it is better than wine or chocolate or cookies — it is like food for the Gods. If I blow maintenance this is where it will happen!!😜😜
    Just kidding, I’m being strong but I’ve found a new love and please tell me it’s good for me because nothing this good should be forbidden!

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    Gday Californiagirl, l been taking raw honey for couple of weeks now, has not had any impact on weight so far though might be different for other people, tell you what, makes my ACV taste heap better in the mornings. I too been craving it, probably because only sweet thing i have had in 5 or so months, but careful to limit my self to 1 table spoon a day. I’m taking taking Dr Google side of view and taking it for the health benefits of :
    A Good Source of Antioxidants. Raw honey contains antioxidants called phenolic compounds. …
    Antibacterial and Antifungal Properties. …
    Heal Wounds. …
    Filled with Phytonutrients. …
    Help for Digestive Issues. …
    Soothe a Sore Throat.

    Dunno what half of that stuff means, but it bloody tastes good
    Take care all

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    Ok, I’m on board with all that stuff! Thank you bloke41! I will continue my honey habit. It is possible that it tastes incredible because I have been sugar-free for a whole year….or… it tastes incredible because I should have all that stuff you mentioned.. I’m going with choice #2!😜 Unless I start getting fat again, this stuff is on my menu at least twice a week!!

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    Real honey, not the usual stuff you find in supermarkets, is amazing. Sure, it’s a source of sugar and calories, so eat too much and you will notice an effect. But if it fits within a reasonable calorie limit… I personally don’t see a problem with it unless you’re a person with diabetes as they need to be careful. That said, bloke41, don’t get hooked on it. Real honey is expensive stuff!

    I’m not diabetic and I’ve made some changes recently that have improved my results. For example, I’ve given up worrying about net carbs altogether. I’m off the starchy carbs, so get all my carbs from veg, legumes and the occasional piece of fruit. Because I’m trying to stick to between 800 and 900 calories, there’s a limit to how many grams of carbs I can eat anyway. Net carbs are coming in now between 90 and 100 g, rather than the 50-70 I was aiming for before. The upshot is that I’m also eating an awful lot more fibre. Yesterday’s reading wasn’t a false low as I’m even lower today. Amazing for me, as till now I have been excruciatingly slow in comparison with other people. I know lots of people find it better to really keep carbs very low (25-50 g), but that isn’t the case for me.

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    Gday all, week 23 done and dusted. I think it’s to late snoop im addicted already, though have stuck to 1tbs a day so far. Im lucky that I have a local hobby bee keeper at work, only charges 8 dollars for 600gram jar and local organic grocery charges 15 dollars for 1kg jar, not too bad in sheme of things,cheaper than the load of pizzas I got in the past.
    Weigh in result
    121.3 kg
    125cm waist
    1.1kg loss for the week
    38.6kg loss to date

    Have a good one all

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    Morning, campers. As you can tell, I’m in a jolly mood. Feel like I’m making progress at the moment:

    Today’s weigh-in: 76.9 kg
    Loss for the week: 1.5 kg
    Total loss: 12.3 kg

    No idea why the pace seems to have picked up, but I am glad. Each time I drop into a new kilo bracket, it spurs me on.

    And that’s a great swap, bloke41, really good honey for pizzas.

    Have a great week, everyone.

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    Awesome result Snoop, well done! The honey is not so bad replacement for the pizza, though l must admit l try not to go past any pizza places…. ACV is getting easier to take, though bit of struggle in the evenings though. Starting to get little buggered from all the exercises, though i keep on doing them, l sure could do with a sleep in big time, instead of walking the pavements. Got a surprise dinner planned for o/h this Saturday at a Mexican restaurant, hopefully l can find something to eat thats carb free.
    Have a good one all!

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    last week i had a Burrito Bowl with brown rice and beans and chicken. yum!!!!

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    Sleep is good for weight loss too, bloke41. Something to do with hormones I think. How many hours of sleep are you getting a night?

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    Snoop, around 7 to 8 hrs on average, though for some reason not much sleep for last 3 nights, bloody frustrating. .

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    I’ve read camping is recommended for sleeplessness as it resets your body clock to natural light hours, but if temperatures where you are are anything like ours, that’s out of the question! Maybe a get-away break somewhere peaceful?

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    Way to hot snoop, slept better last few days, going away in march to see family then a cruise with oh to nz for 2 weeks in October, cant wait to relax. 43 Celsius today, so glad we have aircon. Have a good one. Ps if mentioned camping to oh she’d have a coronary, massive bug and snake phobia…..

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    It gets really hot where I am too, but fortunately it cools down a lot at night, so rarely have difficulty sleeping. And yes, I can understand why camping wouldn’t work for you. A cruise sounds altogether better.

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    Gday all,

    Week 24 done and dusted. Bloody hell where has the time gone. Had bit more to eat than l wanted last night at the surprise mexican dinner with oh, even had bit of carb, small piece of corn bread with my chilli con carn. Another swelter today, forcast 43 cel again, already went for my morning walk, clocking up 6.3 miles in very hot sweltering conditions for 9.30 in the morning.

    Weigh in result 119.6kg
    Waist 124cm

    1.7kg loss for the week, pretty happy getting under the 120 kg mark, haven’t been under that mark since 2010.

    40.3kg loss to date

    Have a awesome one all, and good luck in all of your weight loss journey’s.

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