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  • posted by  Dreamscometrue on Starting in January 2017 – Anyone?
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    Hi ClarinetCathy! Have a wonderful time in Washington over Christmas and we look forward to seeing you in the New Year. Hopefully you won’t put on too much weight over Christmas – I think we’re all finding we eat smaller portions now anyway and don’t “stuff ourselves” any more – but you have the tools to deal with it if it does happen. So have a great time with your family. When did you last see them? If it’s not for a while they’ll really see the change in you!

    I’m doing well; am on a bit of and end of year roll at the moment. Scales now stable at 9 stone 12 and beginning to hint downwards. I’m so pleased as I have been on a plateau for longer than I can remember. So I especially don’t want to let it all go over Christmas and am determined yes to enjoy myself heaps but to eat, drink and be merry in a BSD-friendly way 😉 I do hope to be at my long-awaited target of 9 stone 7 by my anniversary in January!

    But having said that, doing some measurements and BMI calculations – and still being able to pinch rather more than an inch of flab on my belly! – I do wonder if I need to go down a bit further than my original target. To be honest my target was just kind of plucked out of the air as a nice round number to aim for. But I had in mind that when I got there I would be a certain shape – that’s not quite happening yet. I have lost weight all round, including from my belly, but that is where the excess still remains and I’m not now convinced that another 5 pounds is going to shift all of it. Nor do I want to be one of these people who is constantly obsessing about weight and keeps moving the goalposts, but reading more about healthy BMI and waist measurements I think I may need to go a little further than originally planned. Anyway hopefully I’ll get to my original target first and cross the next bridge if and when I come to it!

    Hope everyone else is well and happy and that you all have some nice plans for the festive season? Look forward to reading your posts as and when you can. Love to you all X

  • posted by  marie123 on Positive Thoughts Thread Anyone?
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    Luvtcook – sorry, I meant to respond to your comments straight away, but I’ve been offline as we’ve had a mini ‘thing’ here – both our oven and washing machine have broken down and I’ve been trying to get them fixed – (so the positive thought is we now have a new oven on order – OK, I’m really trying here!)

    Yes, I’ve seen and read a lot of Jason Fung’s work. It’s interesting isn’t it; when he talks about lower calories equalling slower metabolic rate, weight regain, – I reckon any regular dieter would recognise that as exactly what happens. I also like the fact that he acknowledges the faults within the medical profession, vested interest of pharmaceutical companies, etc, and I completely agree with what you say – I am very thankful that my Type II diagnosis came at this particular time.

    Liz, that is brilliant news from your GP visit. Great for you, and great that you’ve persuaded them to change their practice. What a lovely moment when your daughter gets back.

    My positives for today include:
    1)speaking about the Blood Sugar Diet, its impact on Hba1c results, and this website at the Desmond course today
    2) receiving my letter from the Breast Screening Programme this morning saying my mammogram was clear (last time I needed further investigations so pleased about that)
    3) carol singing in the pub tonight with friends and neighbours, and cheery husband

    Kazz – and it’s a lovely ring….. x

    Marie

  • posted by  Milalin on Two weeks in
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    Alibalibee thankyou for the warm welcome. You and others have made me instantly very welcome. I’m am gaining so much from all of you and I know it’s giving me the edge I’ve never had before to achieve this. Best wishes, especially at this time of year. I’m pretty ok re Christmas food and drink as I eat lots of seafood and salads. I’m not drinking because of my medical issues and my biggest Christmas temptation is the nuts. Lots of tradition in cracking them from the shells, actually any excuse . So that’s my one to watch. We are all going out this year so there won’t be any leftovers to pick at Home which is good and should make the diet easier. I’m basically taking it easy Christmas Day but I know I won’t go crazy. I’ve just found out I’ll be dialysing at the hospital all the way up until my operations 25.1.18 so I’m already in a routine with that and my food pattern on those days. So for me Christmas won’t be too bad diet wise.

  • posted by  JGwen on Carbs v sleep v weight loss
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    Hi Flick, – I have been lurking for a few weeks on the forum while I started out on the first 8 weeks of counting carbs and cals. When I started researching the reason for the change in sleep patterns I came across a number of articles which report on research on the links between fibre in the diet and quality of sleep. I thought I had cracked the problem if I could subtract the fibre from the carbs value . No such luck. 🙁 By increasing the amount of fibre I have got back to more normal sleep pattens, but it has taken me back up to around 50g of carb a day, and my rate of weight loss has slowed. Strangely I am still loosing inches, even my wellies are not so tight around my calves, so not all negative. I had thought that such an intense diet would be hard and I could only cope with a few weeks, so I had to go all out for it, but it hasn’t been as difficult as I expected to stick to so increasing to around 50g of carbs a day and sticking to it for months to get towards my target weight isn’t so daunting. Apparently the body needs fibre to create Melatonin, so maybe the answer if I need to cut carbs further to reach my target weight is a supplement.

  • posted by  Flick on Two weeks in
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    Iknow Ensecca – so exciting I was sure I was somehow measuring different spots, do checked and doubke checked! You are right about how unforgiving I would be if I took a step backwa ds. I shoukd be fibe with my friends, they are darlings and will be nothing but supportive. It’s my own hedonistic tendancies I’ll need to keep in check.

    As for the dive trip, one NSV I hadn’t thought of is how much less compensatory weight I’ll have to add to my BCD. On top of everything else, this bloody fat is buoyant so I’m not only exhausting myself trying to get into a wetsuit,
    I then have to lug about an extra 8kg or more to make sure I can descend!

  • Thanks to everyone’s tips and support I’ve managed my first 17 days and a great loss from 106.8 start to 102.1kg! 4.7 kg! I have to work it out in lbs it sounds better! I’m ecstatic. Under 100 here I come!
    Also saw my nephrologist yesterday and he’s happy I’m doing this and confirmed my surgery for 25.1.18. Hoping to get to 98 by then. Getting under 100 is the 1st goal though. Thursday at dialysis I’m having my bloods done so will be interesting to see changes there too. I’ve been surprised how easy it’s been. Having said that a little snacking has crept in. I’m watching that.
    All the best to everyone x

  • Hi everyone, last night I made the hot smoked trout and mushroom frittata, yum! It was my version though as I bought hot smoked salmon as it was marked down for quick use. I also added dill to the mix and didn’t have much of baby spinach so added silverbeet . Also lazy so I cut it in quarters and flipped it in the pan to brown the cheese. That worked and it was really delicious.

  • posted by  Milalin on Two weeks in
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    Wow Flick FANTASTIC! I’m really loving being here and reading great results and great tips from you and everyone else.
    I’ve been quiet about my weight this week as it felt like I’d lost more but the no’s on the scale went the wrong way. So I continued and counted my blessings with the lower bsl and insulin . Finally today day 17 I can report that I’m 102.1kg. I started at 106.8 so 4.5kg, some fluid obviously at first but I’m thrilled! Next time I’ll take a waist measurement when the scales don’t show it! Thanks everyone for your great tips too and support. My first obvious weight loss goal is double digits … under 100. Then at about 98 I’ll be under bmi 35. That ones important for my surgery. After that is a longer stretch to 89 that’s one figure I’ve got stuck at before and bounced back up. With your help I plan to smash through it! The next ‘boundary’ weight is the lowest I’ve got to in my adult life and that’s 82. A long way away at this point BUT I really want to go all the way this time to have the best chance at my new life. There will be plenty of obstacles along the way but I’ve been gearing up mentally for months to start . I know already the support here has given me an edge I haven’t had before. Love to you all and so much gratitude that I’ve found you here.
    Flick the weekend sounds wonderful. You are so happy with your achievements, you won’t muck it up. You have a plan. Even a little extra it’s one day with the girls. Have fun and a fantastic time diving! I’ll be living vicariously through you as I can’t swim again until after the next surgery when my peritoneal carheter will be removed aling with one of my giant bad boy kidneys! Love the ocean, any water actually. I’ve never dived but I’ve snorkelled lots of fantastic places like South Pacific, Tahiti, Carribean etc just think of all those calories burnt when you are in the water having fun and you don’t even notice how active you are. All that water resistance. ENJOY, relax and live it all. X

  • posted by  Esnecca on Two weeks in
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    Congratulations! You see, there was nothing to worry about even with four days of no scale movement. And holy crap, man, I can’t believe your waist! You lost 3.5 cm in a matter of days! That squishy asteroid belt feeling is totally fat loss, by the way. That’s why your waist measurement plummeted even as the numbers on the scale stayed the same or moved down slowly. The dense fat gets replaced by water. The scale can’t tell the difference, but the tape measure can.

    You are rocking it out, Flick. Keep your eyes on the prize during your events. Do not look backwards, even with your old friends of 28 years and when you’re wet and shivering. Everything you do is entirely at your command, and knowing you, you would be brutal to yourself if you backslid. Lots of recriminations, regrets and self-punishment. So swat away any stray thoughts like the gnats they are. This is who you are now and it’s awesome.

  • posted by  ClarinetCathy on Starting in January 2017 – Anyone?
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    Merry Christmas to all my January friends. Hope you all have a very happy and peaceful Christmas. I am off to see my son in Washington for Christmas and will be back on the forum in the New Year. I have managed to maintain my weight loss but am anticipating a gain over Christmas and I will be deal with that on my return! Enjoy Christmas and see you in 2018 for continued friendship and support. Merry Christmas 🎄

    Cathy x

  • posted by  JGwen on Calcating carbs, net, fiber etc.
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    Thanks for the suggestions. I am coming to the end of my first 8 weeks on the diet, so far down 15kg, and 6 inches off my waist. I want to loose at least another 20kg and two more dress sizes then set another range of targets. I have been lurking on this forum and also reading more about keto diets on the web to gather more info. I have been struggling with getting to sleep when trying to be around 20g of carb, which started me looking into if I was working out my carb intake correctly. I think you are right Esnecca, going for the 20g level is difficult for vegetarians, its only possible by having a very small range of meals and a not very balanced diet. I thought I would find being down to 800 calories a day really hard, so wanted to try to hit it hard for a short period of time. After so many years of trying to loose weight by calorie counting and it feeling like pushing water uphill its been a surprise how much energy I have on this diet.

  • posted by  alliecat on Carbs v sleep v weight loss
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    Not a bit of it, Flick! Yo are NOT the resident idiot by any stretch of the imagination. I’ve met
    a lot of ladies from down under here. I find your free spirit and honesty a delight. I’m an
    American, and always find you all to be a breath of fresh air. I never take myself too
    seriously, and I think that our countries may share that characteristic in a very general
    sense of the word.

    For the sleep deprived, I share your pain, not to mention the brain fog, on occasion!
    The natural supplement Melatonin is neither addictive nor does it require a prescription,
    an it’s available in health food stores or in pharmacies in the States. It’s been beneficial
    in helping me to get to sleep. I still can’t sleep more than 2 hrs at a time, but I no longer
    find myself awake at 4:30am, still patiently waiting for sleep to commence. Perhaps
    it’s something to consider?

  • Hi all,
    I am a late joiner, and I have been lurking for a few days and what struck me is the depth of feeling, and the empathy/sympathy and support for fellow travellers on this thread is palpable. I am on week 4 and was on another thread that just died out and I was looking around for a new home and found all this staggering information on this thread, but I won’t be able to post as often as some on here, but will keep up with everything because it is so inspiring. I will be finishing my 8 weeks just after Christmas and carrying on as soon as the dust has settled, but have firmly resolved not to overindulge as that would sabotage my previous weight loss. I haven’t lost a great amount of weight but as I was already doing The 5:2 Fast Diet before I found the 8 Week BSD, I think that I didn’t have a lot of high calorie food to give up and I have only dropped from 90.7Kg to 84.3Kg last Monday, but it is at least a loss.

  • posted by  Flick on Carbs v sleep v weight loss
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    😳 just realised JGwen you started the carb/fibre thread. i’m the resident idiot – hopefully you’ll get used to that.

  • posted by  Flick on Two weeks in
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    Woohoo – excellent start to week 5 with a tentative step into the 71s.

    71.9 on the scales this morning. I’m thrilled. It is just the boost I need as I head towards my two biggest silly season challenges. I’m hosting a small group of girlfriends for drinks on Thursdsy. We’ve been friends since our children were in pre school – 28 years. I’ll have the food choices organised, but alcohol will be the big challenge. There will there be delicious french champagne and we have a long history. Sparkling water, plenty of ice and fresh lime is the plan, and focus on my wonderful company.

    Following hard on the heels of this challenge is a beach weekend with some of my favourite local dive buddies. Dinner on Saturday night, no idea where, and a trip Sunday out to a beautiful island, dives followed by a catered picnic on the island. My plan is to have breakfast (yoghurt, berries) that day – haven’t eaten a breakfast for 4 weeks. The risk of course is that diving, and the water will be cold, makes me starving! Plan to eat only BSD foods and just cope with the sensation of hunger if necessary. Oh and take a bag of almonds in my dive bag.

    71.9!

  • posted by  Flick on Carbs v sleep v weight loss
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    Hi JGwen, there was just an interesting discussion on counting carbs, fibre and sugar in another thread. Essentially in the UK, and Australia, fibre is measured separately on our labels and food logging apps like Fatsecret. It’s combined in the USA. So if a label says 5g carb, 2 grams fibre, that isn’t a net carb off 3. It is a carb count if 5. The 2 grams of fibre are not considered a subset of the carbs.

    As for sleep, I sympathise. Strangely I have been sleeping like a log since about 3 days into this new approach to eating 4 weeks ago, after almost of lifetime of terrible sleep. And I keep carbs down to 20 and below. Our bodies are all so different. If sleeping difficulties are new to you, I strongly recommend paying attention to setting some firm bedtime routines. There are loads of helpful websites on sleep hygiene. You may have to ease in a bit as after a few very late nights as you describe, your body is behaving In the same way it does when you change time zones. And poor old you will have jetlag. It is dreadful. I occasionally had to resort to mild medication to break entrenched patterns.

    Wise move not to drive. That bone crunching tiredness and fuzziness can make everything so much harder. All the best

  • posted by  Milalin on Starting 7 Dec
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    Good news is I dropped the insulin by 2 points morning and night and I’m still between 5-8! Also organised my nut snacks thanks Allie!

  • posted by  Flick on Positive Thoughts Thread Anyone?
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    Hi All,

    Aside from the eating and drinking challenges (which everyone seems to be managing extremely well), this really is a lovely time of year – people are so happy,

    1.it is the most beautiful clear cool morning here, perfect for walking before the day warms up
    2. my fridge is groaning, filled with delicious healthy food
    3. I am starting some Christmas treat baking for friends and family, it will be great fun and I happily won’t eat any of it
    4. My tomatoe plants all have fruit on them so I am still hopeful I will reach the holy grail of vegetable gardening here in the southern tablelands and produce a ripe tomatoe before Christmas – fingers crossed for me friends this is the closest I have ever been.

  • posted by  Esnecca on Calcating carbs, net, fiber etc.
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    The recipes in the original BSD book (as opposed to the follow-up recipe book) don’t have accurate counts, and even if they did, they would still consistently be way above 20 grams a day. I never made a recipe from the book and just used MyFitnessPlan to calculate the counts of everything I ate. I’m glad I did it that way because I had no idea what a serving size really was or how much of which nutrients were in my food until I started.

    Vegetarians do the BSD, but I don’t recall any of them shooting for the 20-gram limit. The goal is a challenge even for omnivores. It’s a very difficult thing to get enough protein for your needs (about 1 gram per kilo ideal body weight) when you have to lean on pulses and legumes as a primary source. Seitan is made out of wheat and meat replacements like Quorn often have pretty bad carb counts, lots of breading, hidden sugars, etc. Do you eat soy and hemp products? If you don’t, it’s time to start, particular in the tofu arena.

    Good luck!

  • posted by  Milalin on 2017 Lucia
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    Thanks sunshine-girl I’m gradually getting used to navigating this. My Nephroligist dropped by dialysis while I was typing then my nurse cane 2 x so I was in and off and typing …

  • posted by  JackieM on Calcating carbs, net, fiber etc.
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    JGwen – as a GB person (though I use MyFitnessPal, which doesn’t do net carbs) I can confirm all the others are saying.

    If it helps further in the UK : –

    carbs = sugar plus starch (so bread has sugar plus extra carbs that are not sugar i.e.: starch. Your body breaks it down to sugar in the end which is why we should minimise our intake of both).
    fibre – separate reading. is the insoluble stuff that goes straight through. Important for bowel movements and I think we should be trying to maximise this within the confines of the 800 calorie limit.

    It might be useful to look at a few packets and compare them to the app? Its all separated out on packets, normally, and would give you a point of comparison.

    Hope this helps
    xx

  • posted by  JGwen on Calcating carbs, net, fiber etc.
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    Thanks guys, that helps to explain the confusion for me, I wondered why some people talk about doing a manual subtraction. I didn’t realise about the difference between the UK and US.

    I am a vegetarian, no fish or meat, so many of the discussions on menus and most of the recipes in the book are not ones I can follow. That’s why I need to be able to work out using a log of ingredients how many carbs I have taken in.

  • Congratulations to everyone for the good results. Last week’s damage is that I’ve put on 1.8kg, so currently sitting at 800g heavier than when I started this challenge. I’ve found it quite difficult to get back on track this time for some reason, but attempting a fast day today to try and give myself a kick in the right direction. The worst thing over the past few days has been how irritated my gut has been, so I’m now motivated to see if eating more BSD compliant food helps to calm things down.

  • posted by  SunnyB on Positive Thoughts Thread Anyone?
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    Hi V, the cauliflower bhajee is not deep fried, it’s just cooked in a light curry sauce, so more like the saag, which is why I choose that, saag, mushroom or aubergine. I occasionally have a small onion bhajee, but avoid rice, breads and other high carb items. As long as I’m steering clear of those, as an Indian meal is only occasional, I don’t panic too much about the calories.

    I agree, the posts from Eliza and Jackie were really uplifting and like you V, I often struggle to come up with more than one or two positives to post.

  • I suppose I’ve had a successful week or two weeks on this challenge. My weight is almost the same as it was when I came away three weeks ago. Unheard of! I usually put on maybe four pounds which I lose quickly when I go home but this time I’ve probably lost a smidgen. So all positive at this end.

    S-g nothing is static. Readings do go up and down but as long as you are still doing all you can you can’t ask for more. Wait until tomorrow and see what your doctor, or should that be ‘dishy doctor ‘ has to say! At least you are down 50% on your insulin …. very, very positive so keep that in the forefront of your mind. Good luck tomorrow. Let us know how you get on.

  • posted by  Esnecca on Calcating carbs, net, fiber etc.
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    Allie, it’s not total carbs minus fiber for her. It’s just total carbs period, assuming she’s using Fat Secret’s UK database which I believe is the default. Only in the US and US-based apps like MyFitnessPal do we have to do that manual subtraction.

  • posted by  Verano on Positive Thoughts Thread Anyone?
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    Eliza what a wonderfully ‘positive’ post. I think you get the prize for the most upbeat post of the day. But JackieM 5 positive things to post is really good, I struggled to get to three today.

    SunnyB I’ve never tried cauliflower bhaji is that deep fried like onion bhaji or more like saag? And yes this ‘positive’ thread really helps me too.

    Kazz the kebab is just like home made meat balls but on a stick! I really dont think there is anything ‘unfriendly’ or processed in them but they just may be a bit heavy on the calories. It’s not food we eat everyday so, in my mind, as long as it’s BSD friendly the extra calories occasionally can be built into the plan. I think that once you start having simple carbs again it’s far harder to contain and that it’s the beginning of the slippery slope back to high carb eating/weight gain/ yo-yo dieting/diabetes. Not a route I plan on taking again.

  • posted by  alliecat on Calcating carbs, net, fiber etc.
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    JGwen, Esnecca is entirely correct that you have all the information you need to
    calculate staying <20 net carbs per day. Counting sugars is not necessary. It’s
    total carbs less fiber = net carbs. On the 20 g thread, there are posts of some of
    our menus to help you envision what that might look like for you. Both Esnecca
    and I have loss extreme amounts of weight by choosing to keep our carbs under
    20. Others do very well on 30-40. If the scale isn’t moving, you always have
    the option to lower your totals. My losses averaged .5lbs/day at the lower rate.
    However, I was willing to do whatever it took. I think it depends greatly on your
    personality type and emotional make-up. You will find what works best for you!

  • posted by  Esnecca on Calcating carbs, net, fiber etc.
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    They don’t add up because fiber is not considered a subset of carbs according to UK labelling regulations so there’s nothing to add. It’s just a separate category of nutrient like protein or fat. Sugar is a subset of carbs, but it is already counted in your total carb grams, so you don’t add it or subtract it. I like to ensure I get at least 25 grams of fiber a day and I watch sugar like a hawk, so that information is valuable, but on the question of ensuring you stay under the limit, you have all the information you need in the total carb count. So in the breakfast example, you’ve eaten approximately 3 grams of carbs from your 20 gram daily allowance.

  • posted by  JGwen on Calcating carbs, net, fiber etc.
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    Thanks for the message, yes I am in the UK.

    The fatsecret app displays in the standard report just a total for carbs, but I have found that there is an option for an extended report which lists a total carb, dietary fibre and sugars values for the day. What confuses me is that the values for carbs, fiber and sugars don’t add up. For example, after breakfast the figures were total carb 2.84, fibre 0, sugars 0.7

    So how do I work out the 20g level for the diet, is it just the sugars figure?

  • posted by  Esnecca on Hello
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    Good for you, lauraknits. Your husband needs an injection of your attitude and focus. He must be a bit of a tough nut to crack, carb addiction-wise, for him to be so phlegmatic about a decade of diabetes and the introduction of insulin. Shove that man full of fermented foods! 🙂

    Good luck and welcome.

  • posted by  JackieM on Positive Thoughts Thread Anyone?
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    Positives:

    1) lovely morning flower arranging for school – such a restful, frivolous thing to do. An annual treat!

    2) daughter and I get on so much better now she’s 13. Maybe I’ve accepted she’s growing up a bit. And she actually is growing up a bit so is more tolerant of other people’s POV

    3) great dog training session, we learnt ‘heel’ from a front sit. OMG, I will definitely be practicing that one! He’s such a beast already

    4) buttered cauliflower, heavily seasoned and chicken for lunch. Buttery cauliflower my absolute favourite thing to eat

    5) every day I am so grateful for my warm, dry, well lit and beautiful home. We are all only a few steps away from not being any of those things, and every day I feel a deep peace that I feel safe in this world.

  • If you’re losing weight it’s not a plateau. It’s probably the “odd treat” (that phrase is such a delicately British a way to tip-toe around a harsh truth) slowing you down, but you’re very close to your healthy BMI so that could be a factor as well. My reliably steady losses slowed down dramatically as I approached the magic number. Get back to counting and measuring, caronl. No oddness. Precision. You’ve got the greatest start to your New Year in sight!

  • posted by  JackieM on Hello
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    What a great BSD story Linda.

    Best of luck to you and sunshine girl on the husband project. The story about the honey made me laugh, mine it’s maple syrup on his – but he’s an ultra runner so his body burns fat like noone’s business. I’d rather do the BSD personally!😂

  • Hi all. I’m still plugging on – just not very good at joining in the discussions this week! Though I have found the discussions really interesting.

    I have lost 0.7 kilos (1.5lbs) this week. Better than the week before (0.25k), but still comparatively slow – some of the results here are very impressive! I am not sure if this is just a plateau, having lost 7.5 kilos (16.5 lbs) since mid October, or whether the odd treat for St Nicholas on 5 December has played a part. So I shall keep better track this week and continue my drive to d r i n k m o r e w a t e r! 3 more kilos to get to my BMI range. That would be a really lovely way to see in 2018!

  • posted by  Esnecca on Calcating carbs, net, fiber etc.
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    Judging from your spelling of fiber you’re in the UK. As Allie alluded to in the other thread, any British entries that you utilize from the Fat Secret database put fiber and carbs in separate categories so you do not subtract the former from the latter. Only in the US labelling system is fiber included under carbs along with sugar. So your total carbs are likely whatever Fat Secret says they are. No subtracting necessary. The sugar is a subset of the total carbs. Most days that column total for me is no more than 2 grams, mainly from yogurt, nuts and veg.

  • posted by  lauraknits on Hello
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    Thanks sunshine-girl, they sound very similar. I’m looking forward to the challenge, just hope he catches my enthusiasm.

  • Hi Marsie, I only ever eat this way, no carbs but I must have done something wrong. That square of dark chocolate a couple of times a week is maybe every night. But there is no good beating myself up as I have done my best. When I look at my blood readings for each day I am at a loss how to get them lower. I am reading at under 100 in the mornings (5.5) and usually around 70 in the early evening (3.8) – how can I go lower than that. Looking back over the last 3 months I have had about 4 occasion when I have gone up to 120 (6.6) and my doctor tells me to be between 80 and 120. We will have a chat tomorrow but I cannot cut out anything else.

  • posted by  SunnyB on Positive Thoughts Thread Anyone?
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    That’s an amazing gift to give your daughter, Eliaza52! You must be so excited about seeing her again and introducing her to the new you.

    My Indian meal was half portion each of Rasmi Chicken (chicken in a tomato based sauce) and a cauliflower bhajee. Had the second half last night. This is a formula I usually use – something in a tomato based sauce and a veggie bhajee, often sag, but sometimes mushroom or aubergine.

    Lots of lovely positives being posted, don’t know about the rest of you, but it helps to keep me upbeat, especially if things are getting a we bit stress.

    My positives for today are:

    1) Catching up on laundry today, while we are generating a good level of electricity (we have solar panels on the roof). It’s been cold but really sunny here this morning.
    2) Christmas prep is progressing well, managing to do a little bit everyday. Hoping to have the Aga running properly again tomorrow and then I can do some cooking!

    Keep posting those positives folks.

  • Hello to all the busy, busy challengers,

    Up by 200gm from last Tuesday, but 500gm from last Friday. Today = 62.2kg.

    My weekend blew out a little: dinner on the balcony by the canal was ok food-wise, but added a couple of glasses of sparkling shiraz, an old Christmas favourite of ours. The little tonk-tonk tour around the canals to view all the decorated houses was wonderful, people work for weeks on end to put up all those lights, carol singers outside one house on their boat jetty adding to the atmosphere. People pay close to $40 to do this tour, weren’t we lucky to have a friend with a boat? Sunday lunch became Sunday long lunch became Sunday early dinner (no alcohol) before our couple of hours drive home. It was the long lunch early dinner where I just lost track of what I was doing. Oh well, I love my friends’ company, so am not complaining. Strictly, strictly for the next few days as we have another long lunch at Sandalford Winery, very special, on Sunday. We will be with 3 other couples. We all first met at a local squash club when #1 son was in his 5yo kindy year and we celebrated his 50th birthday 3 weeks ago. Long time friends, a lot of history between us.

    Seeing good results above, so well done everybody. Butterlover, we’ve already spoken. JackieM, you are doing so well, aren’t you……really got it sorted 🙂 S-g, fingers crossed for good results. Such an active thread, it’s quite thrilling to be part of it. Hope everyone can keep it going as we get nearer to Christmas.

    One Day at a Time………..xx

  • Well my results are in and not too bad but not good either. HbA1c of 6.1 or 43.2 mmol/mol. That is up from 5.7 in September. Okay, Christmas is coming up so not much I can do right now. I have to remember that I am on nearly half the amount of insulin I was on before. There is a little red asterisk next to the result and in brackets (normal reading 4.0 – 6.0) so I am just over but I am diabetic.

    Will see the doctor tomorrow.

  • posted by  alliecat on 20 g Carb anyone?
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    JGwen, I’m in the States, but the way our nutritional labels read, they list total carbs,
    then fiber, then sugar. The calculation is total carbs less fiber = net carbs. I’ve never
    used sugar calc. in the equation. I think UK nutritional labels already have the fiber
    subtracted.

  • posted by  JGwen on 20 g Carb anyone?
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    Can any one give me some advice on how to calculate the amount of net carbs? The app I have been using to measure food intake does provide the option of seeing g of fibre, and g of sugar and g of carbs. Is net carbs = g of carbs – g of fibre or just g of sugar.