Hi
I have just finished my 16th week and would like to carry on but just committing to 4 weeks at a time.
My plan for the next four weeks is to stick to 800 calories and 30g net carbs a day. I’m finding it very hard to limit my vegetables to small amounts because of the total carb content. So I’m going to count net carbs in the hope that I will also be able to increase my fibre intake, some days it’s been as low as 2 or 3 g…. far too low.
Would love some company on this journey .
I’m in for the first three weeks, if that’s OK.
Chickpeas are my go-to for a fibre boost, but pretty high carb for anyone trying to keep their carb count low.
Hi Snoop
I like chickpeas and I make a lovely chickpea and butternut squash curry but over 20g of carbs a portion! Now I’ve decided to count net carbs it’s only 13g and 7g of fibre so far more acceptable!
Nice to have you along for the journey even if it’s only part of it!
I am doing the 30g of net carbs also and calories between 1000 and 1200.
Am looking at gradually losing weight at a slower rate. Aiming for somewhere between 9 stone 4lbs and 9 stone 7lbs as my eventual target.
Am trying out the China seeds this week. Quite high in calories 15g serving is 67 calories and 5.6g fibre 0.7g of net carbs (this is from the info on the packet – fat secret shows the total carbs not the net carbs).
I thought fat secret showed net carbs but for China seeds it doesn’t. I am now not sure if the carbs I am logging on fat secret are net or total carbs.
Hi everyone and thanks Verano for the new thread. Krisia, I have taken your advice and ordered new Ketostix. Sunshine Girl, I get them from Amazon although I am sure you probably could get them at the chemist. I have also ordered the new recipe book.
Re carbs v net cabs, i had always understood that in the UK the carb figures given were net carbs, but in USA they show total carbs. I assume MFP which is what I use, shows net carbs.
Hi Krysia,
If you look at the “My profile” section of Fat Secret, you will see at the bottom of the page a bit on Food Diary Nutrition Facts. It contains the parameters it will track for you. You can choose up to a maximum of six, one of which could be net carbs.
Hi Verano, I will join you. I’m just starting on week 7 and plan to continue until at least week 10.
Thank you Snoop
I hadn’t realised that I could do that and have now chosen net carbs to track – which I thought I was doing. I didn’t realise that you had to choose between net and total carbs. I just assumed that because I was on the UK site it would only be net carbs – so thank you so much for your help.
Hi Krysia
I use the app version of farsecret and it gives you ‘options’ at the bottom of the page and you can choose 4. At the moment I have calories, carbs, net carbs and fibre. But there are also options for proteins and I think another … can’t remember.
I also thought that in the UK we had net carbs but when I have checked using carbs and net carbs Fatsecret.co.uk does reduce the carb level by the fibre content. Am I getting this all wrong????? I was really hoping to just keep my net carbs, as shown in fatsecret.co .uk , to 30g!
Hi Verano
I am using the fat secret UK – PC version and it gives you 6 choices.
So I have now – with Snoops help – set it for carbs, net carbs, fibre, calories, fat and protein.
When I had it just set to carbs it didn’t deduct the fibre content when it placed the items in my food diary. So when I looked at my totals for the day it had recorded total carbs but I hadn’t realised it was total because it just said carbs. I just assumed it was net carbs.
So now I am going to go for the net carbs total which will allow me more veggies from now on.
Today I have eaten 36.88 carbs altogether but I am going to go by the net carb total of 27.18. Because I can now go higher my fibre total is much better 9.7 for today. It has been averaging about 5g up to now which I don’t think is very good.
Krysia, I am no Fat Secret expert. But after all the insights you and Verano have given me over the last few weeks, I’m glad to have given something back. In fact, to tell you the truth I often go round in circles on Fat Secret, knowing I’ve spotted something but I can’t remember where. There are some things that don’t seem logically placed, but having got vaguely to grips with it and entered a couple of custom foods, I can’t imagine having to start again with a different website or app.
Really looking forward to starting again. I need remotivating. Will begin tomorrow and post my starting weight in the morning. I won’t have lost much in my first eight weeks, but any loss is better than none.
DAY 1 WEEK 1
Hi everyone
So a new day, a new challenge and hopefully, a new resolve to go just 4 weeks staying with the plan.
I have drawn a line in my diary under yesterday and so have now signed off the last 16 weeks. I’ve lost 23lbs overall which is no great shakes but nonetheless, it’s 23lbs less than I would be without this plan. In the previous 4 months I gained 4lbs!!!
What do I want to achieve in the next 4 weeks?
So, with renewed resolve I would like to at least lose another 5lbs to make it to the 2stone mark. I am going to aim for 8lbs which I know I can do if I follow the plan …. easy really!!! My plan will be 30g net carbs and 800 calories.
So Day 1 what’s your plan for the next 4 weeks?
Krysia
Looking back over my fatsecret diary on my PC has been a real eye opener! I have reset my diary to show carbs, net carbs, protein, fibre and calories and so can see the breakdown since I started. According to general thought we should be having a minimum of 20g of fibre a day …. mine hasn’t reached that level even once and most days its been in single figures … low single figure!!!
Protein, which should be around 70g a day has been a little better at above 50g most days but not over 70g on many at all.
I’m going to keep a far more careful watch on the breakdown from now on. I know that increasing the amount of vegetables I eat will improve my fibre intake without adding much in the way of calories. I’m going to experiment over the next week and if necessary I’ll increase my net carbs slightly.
Although I feel well I don’t feel as good as I did a few months ago. Maybe I’m just lacking in some nutrients. Just have to keep trying!!!
Yes, fibre has been a big problem for me on this diet and I’ve found it very hard to keep the levels up. If I’m really concentrating, I can get between 18 and 22 g, but never more than that and often in single figures. Edited to add: the days when my fibre goes up are the days when my net carbs are quite high. I don’t think I’d be able to manage it with net carbs as low as 30 g. It’s surprising how little fibre there is in lots of veg. It could be why the diet book doesn’t place much if any emphasis on total carb level other than eliminating the bad guys.
Anyway, here goes for the next few weeks. Weigh-in this morning was 82.4 kg. I started dieting eight weeks ago at 89.2, so a total loss of 6.8 kg, of which 6.1 kg is on the BSD. Given that I’ve had at least nine days when eating along BSD lines was difficult and five days when it was nigh-on impossible, I regard this as not bad going.
I would love to get to 80 kg or lower in the next three weeks, but that is quite a challenge given my past performance. Plus, mentally I don’t deal very well with goals, so I’m going to take this one day at a time in the hope that the scales will show a gradual decline, if not every morning then more mornings than not.
Good luck everyone.
My 7 day average is currently running at 14.7 g which is not high enough, but is higher than it was a few weeks ago, before I realised it was a potential problem. I am relying on chia seeds to supplement the fruit and veg I eat, but still need to do better.
Hi all, my plan for the next 4 weeks is to stick to 800-900 calories using only recipes from the BSD books.
I have 2 events coming up where I will have more calories than I expect; a weekend where I’ll be renovating a house away from home whilst staying in a hotel and a friends birthday party.
I will prepare meals ahead for the weekend away. Mainly fresh vegetables and a hummus dip. As I will be working hard physically, I will allow oats for breakfast and 1 meal in a restaurant.
For the party, I will avoid sweet treats and carby food but will throw caution to the wind on protein and fats. I will also stick to fizzy water.
Hello,
Can I hop on? I am in week 1 and have been stalking you lot for a few days so I’m hoping its ok to join in with you seasoned pro types. I started on Saturday and so far so good. I’m a long time (on and off) IF but needed something to kick myself off and increase my motivation by shifting a few lbs quickly. I did Atkins for a while after my daughter was born and had great success with it, so this seemed like a good combination. I need to lose around 38lbs before my 50th (Sept next year) and was planning to do 4 weeks of this and then go back to my 5:2 for the remainder of the flab. I am planning to stick to the 800 calories (i’ve actually been under that since starting) and 20g of carbs for the for the 4 weeks and then see how it goes, but if I get on ok I might stick with it for the 8 weeks.
Anyway any advice gratefully received and can someone explain ‘net carbs’ in case I doing this wrong!
Hi Weefifi
Welcome aboard. The more the merrier! Net carbs are total carbs minus the fibre content which can’t be digested by the body so has no effect on blood sugar, as far as I know!
There have been a few threads on net carbs so try searching on the forums page. I don’t know whether counting net carbs is the right thing to do but it sort of makes sense to me!
Good luck with your goals.
Hello all,
Thanks, Verano, for starting this thread, and I will come aboard. Am needing an extra boost, I think, with some stressful family issues ongoing and moi, the emotional eater on/off, up/down/up.
Tomorrow, Wednesday, will be starting day, and I’ll be pleased with under 900cals, under 60gms carbs, averaged over the time. I’ll need to be on my mettle as from this coming Sunday to next Wednesday OH & I will be “weekending” with a rowdy group of friends, staying in Busselton south-west WA, such a gorgeous part of the world except its very close to the splendid Margaret River wineries!! I’ve been away from alcohol for long enough now that I feel quite rumbly tum when I have some (even a small amount of bubbly for wedding toasts a couple of weeks ago) so that will go some way to controlling that situation, I hope.
Best wishes everyone……
Hi all, back from my holiday. Gained 5 lbs so ready get back on board. No increase in my blood glucose except for one morning when I forgot to take my insulin the night before and even that was only just above acceptable levels. Oh and I forgot, Sunday morning was showing 130 (which is not too high) and then remembered I had drunk 2 Limoncellos at the Italian restaurant the night before. Hey ho, time to get back down to it.
I am going back to the 800 calories and 50 grams net carbs but not being too anal about counting the carbs as long as a bad one does not enter my body (I do keep eyeing the granary loaf hubby brought back). I am starting at 167.7 lbs and hoping to lose 10 lbs in the 8 weeks (25th Oct to 20th Dec). As this is a 4 week plan I will stick with you and then see where you all go to.
Just as an anecdote. While away we had primed everyone about my diet but to make it easy I just said no simple carbs (explaining what they are) but give me extra veg or salad (does no one eat salad in Winter!!!). My healthy sil said oh you are on the Med diet. Phew what a relief someone knows something about diet. Night one, what are we having for dinner, fish and chips but it is okay I don’t use batter just breadcrumbs. Lead balloon time. I also don’t like fish. I tolerated eating the fish which she then went on to boil in milk!!!! with a side of supermarket coleslaw. Thank goodness I was only away for 2 weeks. I have many more stories along the way.
Hi Krysia
When I tried to enter a food to the FatSecret database that was particularly high in fibre, I got an error message saying that the total carb grams must be higher than the grams of fibre. This is following the US style of food labeling, where total carbs include the fibre (bit like where our labels state carbs, of which sugar….)
I did email FatSecret about this, and they acknowledged that they were aware of the problem, and the different reporting requirements US/UK – but no real commitment on whether they were going to address it, or clean up the database entries.
SO – most UK entries will be showing the net carbs anyway….. but not all of them
I had chick peas today – well, hummus and falafel snack pot, which seemed to be the best thing on offer in a smallish Tesco metro.
Hi Frog
If fatsecret.co.uk shows ‘net carbs’ for most foods surely the total carb and net carb numbers would be the same??? Maybe it’s just the foods that I’ve picked but when I get a breakdown the net carbs + fibre= total carbs. Maybe I’m reading it wrong as well!!!! Can you remember what food you put in that was very high fibre?
Hi sunshine-girl
Sorry don’t know how I thought that it was Lynn’s saying, she must have pinched it from you!!! Anyway we should all just ‘keep on keeping on’ !
5lbs isn’t the end of the world and I’m sure you’ll lose that quite easily.
Your fish story takes the ‘biscuit’ as they say! Please don’t tell me she BOILED breadcrumbed fish in milk of any other liquid for that matter!!!! The mind boggles! If you had liked fish that would have probably been your last fish meal!!
Chat with Krysia she’s started to enjoy fish after our last challenge … you never know you might get to like it too!
10lbs sounds ok in 8 weeks as you don’t really have much to lose. I’m sure we’ll think of something else after this 4 weeks !!!!
Hi Verano, yes Lynn did start using keep on keeping on, I have found out that I could charge her copyright royalties but I never did get around to registering it LOL (do people still use LOL). The fish story, she didnt use the breadcrumbs as she was so proud they were Italian (something like Rizillo or something) until I pointed out they were 72% carbs. She dipped my fish in egg, put it in a dish poured milk over it and put it in the aga, it was so slimy even if I loved fish it would put me off for life.
Krysia will have to tell me how she got to like fish, I know tastes change as I have discovered many thing I now love, like aubergine and asparagus.
Hi Verano
I’ve probably added 30 or so foods to FatSecret, and only had the error message on one – so assuming the entries are made by UK users, using standard UK labeling info, the majority will probably have grams of carbs net of fibre.
However if you get a food where the food has more grams of fibre than carbs, you won’t be able to enter it correctly.
Hi Frog
Not sure I follow you. For instance Nairns fine milled oatcakes x 2 = 8.6g carbs, that shows as 1.2g fibre and 7.4g net carbs. So to me that looks like the net carbs are 7.4. Do you have carbs, net carbs and fibre as three of your columns in fatsecret ??
Sunshine-girl the mind boggles!!
I made some smoked haddock in milk in the oven last night which was lovely. Believe me the idea of dipping it in egg first never entered my head! Just can’t , or don’t , want to imagine what it was like!!!! Fish is lovely ….. really!!!
Please read article in today’s mail …. Don’t be polite just tell fat patients to diet …. Sorry can’t post the link …. You will be flabbergasted !!!!
there was a piece about that on R4 this afternoon
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-37717594
Sorry, I didn’t read your earlier post properly Verano – I can’t remember what I was trying to enter – but my understanding from other people’s posts is that standard UK carbs on labels don’t include the fibre
If you look at the waitrose website for Nairns fine milled oatcakes, it shows the 4.3g of carbs per oatcake, of which sugars are 0.1g
Fibre is listed as 0.7g – but it is a separate entry – “net Carbs” is irrelevant if you are using UK nutrition labels, because the carb content quoted is already net of fibre.
Links to a couple of articles on it:
http://uk.atkins.com/community/blog/carb-counting-in-the-uk-it-differs-from-the-usa.html
http://www.naturalketosis.co.uk/blog/2014/04/review-ketodiet-app
It is weird how our tastes change after we have been on BSD for a while. I would never have believed that I would start to love fish, or tomatoes. I would not eat tomatoes as I really didn’t like them but now I love them. Food does start tasting differently. It seems that food has a more intense taste.
The other thing I noticed is that I can tolerate hotter spices – whereas before I would only eat very mildly spiced food.
My goal is to up my fibre. So today I have had – according to fat secret – Carbs 42.76 made up of net carbs 27.45 and fibre 15.3. Calories 1059 (my aim is between 1000 and 1200).
Chia seeds are amazingly high in fibre and they have really upped my fibre total – today was the highest it has been since starting the BSD. They do seem to speed up transit in the bathroom department – which is actually probably quite beneficial.
My aim is to continue to lose the 4 remaining pounds really slowly and then find out what level of good non starchy carbs allow me to keep stable blood sugars and no weight gain. You are right Verano – that this is where the hard work starts.
Hi Frog
Ok … have read a few articles and I think you’re right about our labelling here being ‘net carbs’ . I just found it confusing that Fatsecret seems to show total carbs …. but hey I think that I will listen to you. I’m going to remove net carbs from my list of four and just go back to the way I was counting!!!
For anyone who is using ‘net carbs ‘ in my fat secret please look at the link in Frog’s last post …. makes sense despite the Fatsecret stats looking right I’m not sure that they are!!!
Is it the 7 ways to lose weight that starts with you must eat carbs, then goes on to say you must eat fats to keep your body fuelled rather than those sugars and starches we had been told to eat. Surely she is contradicting herself. She even shows the carbs with several different pasta pictures. Is that the article you mean.
I found it a bit confusing at first!
I’m not sure how much fibre you are managing to eat, but mine was generally reaching 10g a day max when I was logging everything – so even if you’ve been adjusting carbs down erroneously, it’s likely that your overall carb intake was still quite low overall.
I think fat secret have just rebranded the site to be able to add a .UK as well as the .com one – a lot of it will be correct UK nutrition data, more so than if a straightforward US site, but they haven’t done any fundamental changes to adjust for issues like this
I’ve just had a look at some generic entries on both sites, and they have the same carb values (apples and eggplant/aubergine)
generic apples – 13.8g total carb, of which 2.4g fibre (fatsecret.com)
generic apples – 13.8g carb, 2.4g fibre (fatsecret.UK, but exactly the same as the US entry)
Waitrose Jazz Apples – 11.8g carb plus 2.4g fibre (waitrose.com)
Waitrose Jazz Apples – 11.8g carb plus 2.4g fibre (fatsecret.UK)
It doesn’t add up exactly, but I think the generic entries are overstated in terms of carb from a UK perspective
To avoid this, it’s probably easiest to pick definite UK entries to get the most accurate carb data (wg Waitrose, Sainsbury, Tesco M&S et al), and ignre the “net carb” data
the logic being that UK residents will have entered using info on UK labels
At least the UK site doesn’t default to measuring everything in cups – that was my main irritation with MFP!
I’ve just found their email
“RE: FatSecret Contact Us Inquiry [GB]
FatSecret Contact <contact@fatsecret.com>
Mon 03/10, 05:59
Hi Donna,
Many thanks for contacting us and sorry for the inconvenience.
Yes we aware of this problem with carbohydrates and fibre and hope to have it fixed soon. Unfortunately we cannot provide a time frame – please bear with us.
We appreciate your patience and wish you well.
The FatSecret team”
I use the information on cans and packages if it is there. In Canada it is quite clear because the fibre count is a subset of the Carb count. I am not going to subtract the fibre count for now but try for 50 g. total carbs. I won’t adjust unless i am not loosing weight or hit a longish plateau.
I hope the counts of cans of beans are just for the beans and not the liquid … because i usually drain that. I don’t buy canned lentils because it’s usually easy to cook then in soup because i think they only take about 30 minutes … even less if you buy the really small lentils.
I may have to adjust the carbs down because my Dec. 10 goal means i have to loose about 35 pounds by then!!! Good luck to me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
there is a thread on here “Carbs or Net Carbs”
– contains posts by JulesMaigret and Shalimar on 19 Oct 2016 confirming the same on Canada/US-v-Europe carb labelling
– and if you just search “net carbs”on this site, it is a recurring theme!
Hi sunshine-girl
No its not that article. Frog has posted the link above to the same article just told in a less dramatic way than the Mail!!! In essence GPs should tell their overweight patients that they need to lose weight!!! In an experiment half of a group of ‘fat’ people were referred to a weight loss program and the other half told they needed to lose weight but were given no further support. The first group lost an average of 2.4kg and the second group 1kg after 12 months !!! A prof. said that if we knock 2.4kg a year off the heaviest people it would have a very big effect in health terms. How many years would it take to make a difference!!!!! Sometimes I wonder why money is spent on certain ‘studies’. I just felt that the article was neither use nor ornament. Maybe I’m wrong.
Frog …. I give in!!!!! I see exactly what you mean now. I think I just had my other head on and the maths seemed to work!!! But the whole premise is wrong, In effect fatsecret is taking the fibre content away from a net carb figure on the UK website …. shoddy really!!!
I don’t know why but I ‘needed’ food last night so it was curry, no rice but a couple of poppadums and then something ‘sweet’ . Anyway all in all a bad night but spurred on by Krysia’s great results I’m back on the wagon again today!
Off to have my blood tests later this morning so my fate for Monday will be sealed!! Really not looking forward to my review. I’m so worried that if there is no improvement in any aspect of my bloods I won’t have he impetus to carry on any further. Will just have to wait and see!
Have a good day!
Hi All ,I haven’t posted for a while .I have had a lot happening with my renovation and then my son and fiance came to stay. We went on holiday and ate in out a lot. Now, I have lost all my determination and gave up .I ate anything that I wanted and found a passion for almond croissants,wine and bread with a lot of butter and vegemite, It feels like I’m on the old yo-yo pattern which has always been my problem.I stopped tracking my meals and blood sugars
.Today. I weighed myself and Im back to 85kg and quite disappointed with myself. I feel like I will never be able to eat yummy stuff ever again. The main problem is the carb cravings in the afternoons. I can eat properly at breakfast and lunch but from 4pm onwards, Im craving food, any food and I will start with green tea, nuts,hummus . Then dinner which is usually a healthy meal. immediately after dinner Im desperate for something sweet usually by 9pm I give in and eat something like icecream or chocolate.The interesting thing is that I did not have this problem in the beginning when I lost 5kg in 4 weeks with no trouble.Now Ive been several months with no consistent sticking to the plan and no results. I am really keen to do the next 8 weeks properly. its 8 weeks to Christmas so the goal is to loose 8kg ,I intend to post more often in the hope that i can be more motivated.All advice welcome.
I’ve had trouble sticking to the Fast 800 as well. I’ve been sick for about 3 weeks and unable to exercise. Mind you i finally weighed myself yesterday and i didn’t gain …. so i am happy with that. Very happy because i thought i had gained 10 to 15 pounds in that time.
I have contacted an organization here called Diabetes North and even though i don’t find their advice that useful i do think i need to keep in touch … they know i’m doing the Mosley plan and my starting weight and my blood sugars. I also went to the walk in clinic and got the doctor to send me for base line tests. Having someone know my plans is a help.
I am also gradually going to increase my aquabics and exercise … i enjoy those things and can’t wait to get back at it. It’s also exercise that is easy on my eroded discs in my back. Find an exercise you enJOY!! Try out different stuff. I intend to also get into Tai Chi and yoga.
I am also into Mosley’s 3rd part of the attack … Mindfullness. I have signed on to the Palouse Online Mindfulness course and have found a local Mindfulness course that i am starting in January. I find when i get the least bit pissy or emotional i eat incorrectly.
When i have accomplished my goal i will go on the maintenance plan … i will occasionally have a chocolate almond croissant, eat at Tokyo House, have A & W onion rings … and cake. I will just not have them all on the same day or even in the same week.
Even now …. i almost never crave foods on the Avoid List …. i want them but i don’t crave them. But i don’t go down the pastry aisle either just to see if i can.
I am 67 and retired now. I am having a few problems adjusting to retirement.
But i am keeping my eyes on the prize. I want to be able to travel a bit. Travel is expensive and a waste of money if i can’t enjoy walking around without being sick and tired.
I am stick and tired of being too sick and tired to enJOY the life i have left. I am keeping my eye on the prize … even though i freely admit i have fallen off the wagon numerous times … i am NOT giving up or giving in.
I need to drink more liquids!! 🙂
That was useful Frog. In that case, I’m going to opt for the generic versions rather than branded supermarket options and carry on as before. As I can’t buy the UK supermarket versions where I am, it makes no odds. Plus, as most of my foods are cooked from scratch, it makes sense. So bearing that in mind, and given that it could all be wrong:
Yesterday’s food:
762 calories, 47 net carbs, 14 fibre
Today’s weight:
82.1
-300 g
Hi Verano
I am sure your hb1ac will be absolutely fine when you get the results next Monday. It is hard not to worry though when something is so important. I spent a virtually sleepless night before my review so I am probably not the best person to say ‘don’t worry’.
Hi Butterlover
It’s great that you are ‘back on the wagon’ and 8kg before Christmas is a really doable goal. I wonder if you are like me – if you are not eating the bad carbs you have no problems with them – which is why you were ok for the first 4 weeks. I haven’t had even one mouthful of a bad carb since 1st May and when I look at bad carbs I just think yuk how horrible.
But sadly I do know from numerous dieting effects stretching back over nearly 50 years that it doesn’t take long for the ‘carb monster’ to re-surface and the yuk feeling I am getting now when I am faced with bad carbs completely goes and they become the most desirable yummy foods that I absolutely cannot live without for even one day.
When I look back over the last few months – what did motivate me to keep off the bad stuff. Was it the fact that the retinopathy could mean I would lose my sight or that there was a little bit of concern that I was losing feeling in my right foot. Yes they did help motivate me -but I got my real motivation from reading posts on this forum. Every time I felt tempted I picked up my tablet and scrolled through the forums and the urge to eat bad stuff would get easier to resist.
And the nicest thing is that good healthy food tastes absolutely yummy now and I have so many healthy lovely foods that I absolutely couldn’t live without. But I will never underestimate the power of the carb monster so am quite happy to keep it locked away out of sight – for ever.
Hi everyone (old and new). End of week 17 today and this week another 2 pounds gone. My son asked me to make flapjacks yesterday. I thought I would have enough willpower to resist, but alas not. And once I started ….
Anyway as Nina Simone says, it’s a new day. Only problem is my back has got bad again. Back on the co-codamol again. Won’t be doing my steps today.
Yesterday took my dog to be mated and again today. If it takes, puppies on 27th December.!!!
I read the Guardian version of the story about GPs encouraging patients to lose weight. The bit that got me was that the Guardian quoted someone as saying people who opted in would be given a voucher for twelve sessions at Slimming World or Rosemary Conley. Judging by some of the comments on here, SW isn’t the most effective way to go. Plus, SW and RC organisers must be rubbing their hands in glee at all that money that will come in.
There’s a scheme starting up around here where you can be referred to a local gym for 12 weeks. Again it would be interesting to measure the effectiveness of that.
Thanks for the feedback, after posting. I went out to the shops, resisted all temptation.walked a good few steps and feeling more motivated .lets see what my WT and BGL is like tomorrow. Also plan to go to bed early.I bought a diabetic magazine with articles about getting fit . so we shall see. Glad to see everyone else is doing well
Hi verano
Not as far as you, but I am amazed that this weekend will see my 7th week over?, I have had a few wobbles but over all I am finding this a normal ish way of eating, my intention is to just keep on going, just have to remember to not relax to much, and forget?
Just surprised myself made a salad sprinkle of ginger powder and a drizzle of chilli source as a dressing, wow what a flavoursome salad, will be using that combo again, an hour later and still getting flavour burst in my mouth?
I have decided not to look at my food intake before I eat as I found I was restricting myself too much, say I had 26 grams carbs and planned something that was 8 grams (I was doing 30 grams daily) I would look to have something else and it was too draining. So yesterday I did my menu and ate what I wanted and added it up this morning. No going back, so I still have to be careful. My menu yesterday was yog, rasp and almond flakes for breakfast, no-carb ploughmans for lunch (I always forget the nuts), chicken and chorizo in tomato sauce for dinner, Snacks were 15 grams of 85% dark chocolate, 1 ryvita and 1.5 oz of chicken breast.
Total calories 870
Total carbs 43
Weight loss this morning – 0.2 kg
Blood glucose 120 (6.6) – that is the highest it has been for ages, no apparant reason. I must look at a post where someone says you can have vinegar to prevent the Dawn Effect.
It is amazing how quickly this diet works, to lose weight on day one gives you the impetus to continue.
I noticed someone saying you can get vouchers from your doctor for Rosemary Conley fitness clubs – good luck with that RC went bankrupt about 3 years ago. I do know that SW and WW accept doctors vouchers, I think you get 3 months free. I see it is the magazines every month there is someone who dieted for their health. Don’t ask why I still subscribe to the mags, maybe just to have something to read in English and I like the success stories but they are not as good or inspiring as on this forum.
Here’s the link to the Guardian story.
I misunderstood, as the Slimming World and Rosemary Conley thing is in brackets, so not actually part of the proposed conversation GPs were encouraged to have with patients. Sorry about that, I read it yesterday morning and had forgotten that.
Sunshine-girl, I’m a bit like you. I can’t be strict at the start of the day, as what we eat depends more on how long I’ve got to prepare it. I try and keep lots of healthy things in the house that I can turn into something good. At the moment, we’re running short of anchovies. Don’t know what I’d do without Verano’s courgetti puttanesca. Speedy, filling, tasty and not many calories or carbs, and OH loves it. And you’re right, this forum is really inspiring. Between it and the BSD, I can really see myself getting to a reasonable weight and not taking years to do it, either.
My doctor tells me to lose weight every time I see him. He always weighs me so was thrilled to find I had lost 5kgs on my last visit. He will be expecting more when I go back as he is always cracking the whip. Love him to bits but he never tells me what I can eat, just what I can’t, then he sent me to the woman who called herself a nutritionist, I think he has crossed her from his list of recommended specialists now he has seen what advice she gives (rubbish advice).
Hi sunshine-girl, sounds like you’ve done the doctor and future patients a big favour there. Love the idea of him cracking the whip. Our doctor is a bit laissez-faire. It’s a tiny village full of mostly old folk. I think he’s taken the attitude that we’re all going to pop our clogs soon anyway, so he’s not very proactive. I get on with him, though, and he’s always given me good treatment, just never makes any suggestions.
On the subject of getting old, OH asked me this morning if I’d noticed he was going balder. In reply, I asked if he’d noticed I was getting wrinklier. I wondered if it was perhaps the diet and we weren’t getting enough of something. To which he said: “Better haggard and bald than fat”. So there’s a future to look forward to! Just as well we like each other and I know he’s not being mean. Even so, time to start getting the face creams out, I think.
Today’s weight
82.0
-100 g
Yesterday’s food
915 calories
66 net carbs
Morning everyone
It’s now 12 days since I lost my way and am finding it really difficult to get back on track! Today I will get through the day on plan! Its only one day and I can and will do it!
Thanks for reminding me Snoop that I need anchovies!! I usually have puttanesca when I’m eating alone … quick and easy so I’ll have it tonight. I think a meat/fish free day does you good now and again.
Had my blood tests yesterday so just need to see how things are when I see the GP on Monday. Hoping there has been some improvement but at least I do know I’m lighter than I was at my last review so that’s a step in the right direction!!
Hope you are all doing well on your chosen paths.