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  • posted by Lupf
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    I am type-2 diabetic, and am starting a 5+2 BSD diet. My issue is that I travel a lot for work, 1 to 2 weeks each month. While not traveling, I assume all will be ok. While travelling I don’t know what I should do. I don’t see an easy way to follow a 600 calories diet as I am eating dinner at restaurants. However, it is not only how to obtain low calorie food. When away I go for dinner with colleagues. This has not only the purpose of eating, but is important networking. I am a researcher in academia and we always talk about work.

    Question: how effective will 5+2 be, if I only do it when eating at home, on average 2.5 weeks each month?
    Can I scale, i.e. will it take 60% longer until I reach my goals? Or will it be worse?
    Any tips how to do a 5+2 diet while travelling would be appreciated.

  • posted by sunshine-girl
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    Hi Lupf, I will answer this more fully but I just popped in to turn off the computer and saw your post. First of all, the up to date version of the 5:2 allows 800 calories rather than 600 which Dr Mosley believed to be too low. Starting on that basis and possibly breathing a sigh of relief, you will get lots of help and hints here. Secondly, but not such good news, you say you are T2 and should be trying to combat that quite seriously and possibly doing the BDS 800 cal 8 week diet. I will check out your profile, but for now, goodnight. Just so you know there is someone here.

    Can you give more info i.e. how long diagnosed, last HbA1c results, any medication, life style etc. This will help us help you and give you more accurate information. Then we can also address the travel / food issue.

  • posted by Lupf
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    I was diagnosed 4 years ago.
    Medication: on metformin 2x1g twice a day.
    HbA1c is stable, between 62 and 65, since adjusting medication.
    Doctor now asked me to take more med (Gliclazide) or lose weight and exercise.
    Lifestyle is (too) sedentary, I walk to and from work (20 min each way). I like to hike, occasionally bike and ski.
    I eat healthily, lots of veg and fruit and fish, we cook fresh meals at home, no ready meals, no fizzy drinks, but love pasta and potatoes, so about 10 kg overweight, which I would like to get rid of.
    After reading both “8 week blood sugar diet” and “the fast diet” by Michael Moseley, I decided to do the 5+2 diet. Michael Moseley did this himself. A reason for this decision is that it helps to have a partner (my wife) who is also dieting and I am confident that I can do this when eating at home.
    I also started exercising again, trying to figure out what works best. The high intensity training looks tempting, maybe I should invest in a treadmill.

  • posted by sunshine-girl
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    Hi there, thank you for the information. First of all your doctor said take meds or lose weight. Answer, lose weight. We believe that meds lead to more meds and more complications. If your wife is dieting why do you want to do the 5:2 which is minimal dieting (ie healthy eating) 5 days of the week and then doing the 800 cals. You can both do the BSD just by cutting out carbs which, by the way, is the first step to improving your BG numbers. Eat everything you do now but without the rice, pasta, potatoes – also no breakfast cereals (they are total sugar and salt) or processed foods. You sound as though you are nearly there so there is just one more step, stop the carbs. If you dont feel you can do that, is the 5:2 so you can eat carbs and then have 2 days without? Complicated isn’t it. Make it simple.

    Your main question was about what to eat while travelling for work. Cant help much as I am retired but my daughter is on the Fast800 and is currently at a conference in Turkey – will have to see how she gets on. But, many people on this plan have strategies depending on whether it is the travelling bit, the hotel meals or socialising while networking. Type Travelling For Work into the Search Engine at the top right of the page and read through the many posts, then come back with any queries. You will also find answers about the 5:2 – yes it will take longer and not be so effective, my view is it is for dieters, not for diabetics, but it is a start. There are lots of people on here who have been there, done that and got the t-shirt, so dont worry about having to cope on your own. Good luck.

  • posted by Lupf
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    Thanks for the reply. I have found some information on the search engine, but nothing really unexpected.
    I’ve had one week of 5+2 diet , then I was four days away last week and now I am on 5+2 again this week.
    I have also started exercise, at least 1 hour per week.

    Learning by doing while traveling – During the conference, I ate less than usual on monday, but not really dieting, and this was offset by a drinks reception. Conferences are difficult for dieting. I then decided to try travel day (thursday) as a fast day. This more or less worked! For breakfast, I asked the B&B to have only an egg (and a slice of toast) for breakfast. She gave me two eggs!. Skipping lunch was okay. What I found out that also works: you can get a meal, e.g. salad with chicken or shrimps from places like M&S or Waitrose, with less 400 calories. This and a bottle of water for dinner worked well during a four hour train journey. And I got lots of work done.

    As expected I was losing weight during fast week and I hope I will lose some more this week. I am also doing a fasting blood sugar test once a week in the morning (before fasting day), but with only two data points, it is too early to say anything, as the variation could just be a blib. I will be away for two-and-half weeks starting friday. Easter with family, then another conference followed by a week of holiday, so I am wondering how this will work. My plan is to continue 5+2 for three months then have another HbA1c test.

  • posted by Lupf
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    So far so good, I’ve lost approx 5kg since my last visit to the doctor in February. Amazingly, I’ve managed to keep my weight while away over Easter with family, then a week of conference followed by a week of holiday with no fast days. I guess it helps being active, with biking and hiking and having the holiday home on a hill above town. And I will only have short trips this month, so I plan to lose more weight with fast days.

    My next question is about blood sugar level tests, I am doing them in the morning before eating. When converting the results from mmol/litre into HbA1c units (mml/mol) – see https://www.diabetes.co.uk/hba1c-to-blood-sugar-level-converter.html
    the results look (too) good. I suspect that at least part of this is due to the fact that HbA1c averages (integrates) over all periods including food intake, whereas in the morning I essentially check my body engine running idle. In my view however, testing at random time doesn’t make sense. Should I keep doing what I am and find out at the next HbA1c test what the difference is? Or is there a way of doing blood sugar level tests after eating systematically? Any advice would be appreciated.

  • posted by sunshine-girl
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    Lupf you are right about your morning tests showing you running idle. I test in the morning and run at around 4.0 4.5. When I have my 3 monthly Hb1C I am usually around 6.0 which is where it has averaged out, not only over the 3 months but over the day too. So if I tested at 2 hour post lunch I would be around 7.5 and that is what you have to consider. Keep testing at a regular time as it is a good indication of where you are. Also, some blood monitors are not 100% accurate and should allow a 10% tolerance.

  • posted by arcticfox
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    Hi Lupf, well done on your weight loss so far. I just saw this thread and wanted to give you my perspective. I am not Type 2 diabetic, but I do have a severe allergy to soy. I have to be really careful eating out as it seems to be in so many things these days. I also travel for work and am at conferences a fair bit. I used to just do my best with what was on offer on the menu. Then I happened to go out for lunch one day with a friend who is coeliac, and boy was that eye opening. She was not afraid to ask about substitutions and when she was done ordering she said, ‘oh, and can you tell the cook to give the pan an extra wipe prior to cooking?’. I realized that I needed to be much more assertive in restaurants. After all, my allergy can kill me. I would look at Type 2 diabetes in much the same way. It is almost like an allergy to carbs. It may not kill people as quickly as anaphylaxis, but it still kills people. Don’t be afraid to ask for what you need!

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