BAD BAD BAD DARK CHOCOLATE

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  • posted by bigeater
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    Hi All, thought I would have a little dark chocolate (85%)…. and a little more…. and a little more….and a little more……

    Found out it is another thing I cannot eat in moderation so no more. Having had 100grams in one day I am disappointed with myself and feeling a bit sick. Live and learn.

    Something I can have in moderation and is a soothing drink is hot cocoa made from raw cacao (not as bitter as processed stuff) and a dash of milk. Chocolatey and heaps lower in calories and carbs.

    So onward and downward and I have sworn off dark chocolate.

    I can do restriction but I can’t do moderate. oh well. It’s a learning curve.

    Keep on going everyone! Don’t give up!

    Bigeater

  • posted by KrysiaD
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    Bigeater – that is such a shame. Perhaps if you try the 90% dark chocolate you won’t get the same reaction. I find the 85% is just too sweet now but the 90% is quite deliciously bitter and one 10g square does not trigger a need for anymore. Sometimes – if I am a bit low on carbs I will have a second piece – but not very often. It is also a lot lower in carbs than the 85%.

    It is my special treat every day – and has really helped me to stay on the BSD.

    I am an all or nothing person also and many many times in the past – one piece of milk chocolate would lead to a whole bar and then a lot more bars – I won’t go into just how much chocolate I could consume in one sitting but it was quite a shockingly large amount.

  • posted by Verano
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    I’m with Krysia on this one. I have my one or two squares of 90%, usually Lindt my favourite, with a strong coffee. A real treat and usually hits the spot!

  • posted by BSD
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    I get the individually wrapped ones from Aldi (5 slices), I tend to only then eat 1 if it was a full bar, I would probably eat the lot as well. Strange how the mind works 🙂

  • posted by Leeanne
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    I thought I was being sensible when I purchase a handy pack of 7 tiny chocolate bars each exactly 50 cals from Lakeland. What a good idea I thought.
    Wasn’t intending to scoff the whole 7 bars at once though!!!!!

  • posted by ddraig_goch
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    I use 85% for cooking and 90% for eating but have locked it all away (metaphorically speaking) for 100 days whilst I focused on BSD. Having read this thread have just been to have a look but now its all safely put away again. Only another 82 days to go Sigh!

  • posted by pod
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    I haven’t tried chocolate yet, 1 1/2 weeks till first 8 weeks completed!
    Feel for you Bigeater, I don’t have a moderation dial either. It’s either off or full on!! I’m the same with bread or alcohol.
    It’s as much as I can get my hands on or nothing at all. Sigh!
    When I’ve completed first eight weeks I’m having a break for 2 days and then back on .
    I’m gonna try choccy then!! Woop! Woop
    BSD what are the ones in Lidl like?

  • posted by ddraig_goch
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    What I want to know is why can’t you get Easter bunnies etc in 85% chocolate (or higher). I’m baking cheesecake squares for the dog club for Easter and am going to put a little Aldi bunny on top of each portion but can’t find anything suitable for mine sigh!

    Even though I can’t eat it until my 100 days is up it would have been nice to have an Easter something to look forward to.

  • posted by Jande9
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    In Canada we can get pure baking chocolate ( http://www.kraftcanada.com/products/00066188008405 ) which is 100% chocolate and 0 grams of sugar. It is bitter but I love it and a half ounce (70 cals) is enough. The taste lingers for an hour.

    For some reason pure baking chocolate isn’t sold in the UK.

    Jan

  • posted by ddraig_goch
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    Thanks for the link Esnecca. Never realized you could get such fantastic moulds. Any tips for using them? Have not tried before.

  • posted by ddraig_goch
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    Your Canadian baking chocolate sounds wonderful Jande9. My daughter bough me bar of 100% chocolate for my birthday a couple of years ago. Best chocolate I’ve ever tasted but at £7/100g I told her I’d rather have a couple of bars of Moser Roth 85% from Aldi. Although I usually eat Lindt 90% because its lower carb, I consider Moser Roth special as it doesn’t use Dutch cocoa so is a purer chocolate unlike the Lindt bar, and it comes in little bars so I feel I’m allowed to indulge myself.

  • posted by runrascal
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    Whittards Dark Chocolate Tea!! It’s proper tea with little pure chocolate nibs. Fabulously chocolatey taste.

  • posted by pod
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    Runrascal, I’ll be looking for the chocolate tea next time I shop, sounds delish!

  • posted by Iammyself
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    72 yr old female. I’ve done 6 weeks on this diet, not lost much was 69.8kg now 68.1kg waist size gone down from 35” to 31.5”. Doctor said I was T2 blood reading 7.7mmol last 6 days have weighed my food and found I was eating 115g instead of 50g of certain things! My bloods had gone to 7.4mmol at that time. I had a talk with myself and stuck to 800 (between 760 to 900 a day) bloods have been 6.3 last few mornings. 2 hours after meal I was 5.1 so I’m happy with that. Today I made hot chocolate drink, milk with some cream 2 dessert spoons cocoa powder and 1 strip of 98% black chocolate, pinch of salt, sprinkle of chili pepper, nutmeg, cinnamon no sugar and it was thick and delicious made a treat! I will see what my bloods are in morning, but I only had a 2 egg omelette with some asparagus spears for dinner. Will have a cup of tea with dash milk in a bit then water til bedtime. When I get peckish I read or watch tv to engross myself. I tried metformin for 4 days and was so ill running to toilet etc feeling sick no appetite and bloating that bruised and hurt me. I’ve realised that after I had burst appendix and peritonitis 4 years ago I have parts that are stuck to my bowel after healing causing pain when I have gas build up! Im not on any medication and don’t want to be so im grateful for finding this 8 week reversal diet and will carry on even if I change to the 5-2 diet as a long term solution to health. I think sometimes the answer is to be creative with food then you won’t get bored. If you stray now and then it doesn’t matter think of it as a treat not that you have gone off the rails. And if my doctor wants me to get my bloods below a 6 or 5.5 I couldn’t care less. I have a few friends who’ve died of cancer and one from Covid. Managed diabetes is good but I’m not joining the medication club. Ive been losing my hair for 20 years and they’ve never sent me for investigations apart from its not thyroid related! Then doctors ask if I want to go back on antidepressants! No I don’t. Ive moved to France from U.K. in the countryside and grow my own veg. I’m healthy mentally and happy now. Thank you for reading.

  • posted by SunnyB
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    Thanks for sharing your story, Iammyself, seems you have a good plan going forward and a great attitude.

  • posted by sunshine-girl
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    Hi bigeater, just seen this thread and can I add my 2 penceworth.

    Also to Iammyself, I am not a chocoholic and dont have any cravings and even had a box of after 8 mints in the cupboard from Christmas 2021. I do enjoy a small (10g) piece of very dark chocolate each evening just out of habit and convincing myself I deserve a treat. Anyway, I sometimes dont sleep very well and a few times I have made myself a very low calorie hot chocolate drink with water and a dash of milk only to find my BG is sky high in the morning. So I would be interested to see what effect the choccie drink has on your BG Iammyself.

    Interested that you have moved to France, where exactly are you. I am 20km from Bergerac and I do find French life has less temptations than when I am in the UK. No takeaway deliveries, not too many fast food outlets and most restaurant meals dont have much in the way of carbs. However, living off the land is virtually impossible unless you are an experienced market gardener. I lose most of my crops (fruit and tomatoes) to the magpies and the fieldmice. A large percentage is lost due to weather conditions, heat, storms, frosts etc. However, I do enjoy what I do get to eat and it is a great feeling of doing something for the environment and your own well being.

  • posted by sunshine-girl
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    Iammyself, also meant to say, you are right to try to avoid the medication route. I started on Metformin and Glycazide and, yes the Metformin made me very ill. To counter this the doctor decided to put me on insulin to avoid the digestive system. In 6 months I had gained 15kgs. I started on 12 units daily and ended up on 42 units. 17 years later I am still trying to get off it and hopefully that will be soon thanks to this diet. Not only do you need more and more meds for the diabetes but these cause other problems so you then have to have meds to counter that and so it goes on and on.

  • posted by Iammyself
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    Hello sunshine-girl, this morning I got blood sugar of 6.3 even after the loads cocoa and 98% black choc melted drink. I’ve been getting around 6.3 the last few mornings, before that (couple of weeks) I had 7.4. I made the drink because it filled me up!
    My mother lived near Bergerac, in plaisance near issigeac and I live in southern Orne area 61 mot far from Mayenne 53. I was born outskirts Paris, years ago, now it’s a large town Cergy-Pontoise. Lived in south east uk from age of 6 and came back to France 20 months ago to live before it’s was too late and didn’t want regrets of not trying. The weathers been very hot here almost like the south at times and it’s been hard to keep veg alive! 2 years of raised beds as field voles come up and eat roots and stems causing them to die (the veg that not the voles lol). I’ve learned a lot especially this year – when sowing seeds dig a little line put a little sand on top then kitchen towel folded in half, water well, put seeds along paper towel, cover with compost/sand mix and water again. Cover the raised bed with plastic sheets or cotton bedding to protect seeds from drying out and water gently every evening. Don’t need much water cause it’s only the rows that need it. When it’s going to rain take sheets off unless it’s a storm, you don’t want you growing damaged! I’m growing late carrots, lettuce, lambs lettuce, beetroot and leeks like this all going well. In the shallow beds I planted onions and garlic in early summer, I’ve 3 onions and garlic look like tiny silver skin onions! You can keep lettuce over wintertime by covering them with hoops and fleece or cotton sheets. I do it as I need the greens in this diet even a carrot with skin on is ok just not many. It’s hard when you want to change your life but I couldn’t do this in U.K. as easily. My hubby is a bit disabled after doctors hadn’t diagnosed that his body wasn’t making or storing vitamin B12 so he suffered permanent nerve damage. Doctor says his nerve damage is cause he has T2 diabetes, but in fact it’s the other way round, it’s his pernicious anemia that cause myelin sheath damage to his nerves and the brain and nerves don’t communicate like they should do blood sugars go high sane Ruth his blood pressure. He’s on metformin, I’m not, but he needs a bit of looking after and no one knows when the end will come so we are feeling happy here. We miss our 4 kids and grandkids but our youngest daughter came out recently. It’s been hard whichever way you look at life with the Covid lockdowns, restrictions etc. I will carry in with this diet for a bit longer but will probably do the 5-2 later it’ll probably suit my body better.
    These forums are really handy as sometimes you get stuck and don’t know who to ask. It’s good to read what’s happened to others and if they managed to solve problems.

  • posted by sunshine-girl
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    I know Issigeac very well. We live in a little village called Le Fleix, I am sure your mother would recognise the name. We were almost on the point of moving back to the UK in September last year, putting our house on the market. But after a couple of visits in October then Christmas we decided it was not for us. I dont want to run the UK down but there are a lot of problems now. I am really grateful to the health service here. From telling my doctor I didnt feel well, to having multiple blood, urine and stool tests, then a scan – all within 2 weeks, I got an appointment with a specialist. The only thing that stopped my going the same week was that I was going back to the UK for our daughters wedding. Not counting the 3 weeks we were away I was less than 3 weeks from first doctors appt to full diagnosis and treatment. In fact, even though I had regular blood tests for cholesterol and had all the T2 symptoms my UK doctor totally missed my diabetes diagnosis and put me on anti depressants which I didnt take. When we moved here, a full set of bloods showed up the problem – T2.

    Dont forget, if it gets too difficult on the level you are at there are other choices, as mentioned, 5:2 or less. Also you can still find support here whatever regime you are following. Bon chance.

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