ONE WEEK AT A TIME beginning 25th May 2020

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  • posted by SunnyB
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    Wendy has asked me to start the new weekly thread for her, as her day has been a busy one with a trip away from home, she is not back yet and she was concerned some people might worry we would not be continuing with the weekly thread.

    I will not try to emulate Wendy’s inspirational kick off posts, but it seems this last week has proved a tough one for many of us, juggling all kinds of things … working from home, home schooling, the general stresses of lockdown and managing BSD as well – and for some there will have been additional burdens too.

    In these strange and uncertain times, it is essential we give ourselves space to be human and not expect too much of ourselves. There will be days that get the better of us, so recognise these and be gentle with yourself when that happens. We will be here to offer encouragement and support and sincerely hope that everyone will continue for another week.

    Wendy and Sunny xx

    I’m going to close with a quote from Mary Anne Radmacher ….. “Courage doesn’t always roar. Sometimes courage is a little voice at the end of the day, that says “I’ll try again tomorrow.”

  • posted by Dreamscometrue
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    Hi everyone, I’m here I don’t post much but do follow the weekly threads. I’m starting a 6 week blitz as of tomorrow. Want to shed a few pounds and also complete the Couch25K challenge in that time. I won’t bore you with the minutiae of my progress but will definitely check in now and again!

    Cathy, sending hugs and hope you can work out what’s going on X

    Good luck everyone!

  • posted by wendleg
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    I am here folks .Thanks for setting up the new thread Sunny ! You said exactly what I would have said . There was definitely a sense that many were struggling last week and it was difficullt at times to stay motivated. Remember noone is perfect and there are bound to be bumpy moments as you strive to juggle lots of things at the same time.

    That’s a great quote , Sunny !

    I have got into the habit of posting the list of all our lovely contributors and as well as our regulars we would love to hear from you,
    even if you have been a bit quite lately. We are here to support you ….especially in these tough times xx
    SunnyB
    Merrymelba
    Niamh and Dean ( Neegan)
    EC
    Caronl
    Clarinet cathy
    Bryla
    Windyjulz

    Georgiejeorge
    oLive 1
    Puddy
    Dreamscometrue
    Gattina
    melH
    rosyapple
    LovesGroodles

    timetochange
    Patricia
    Articfox
    Double Dutch
    PTR
    Britta
    Film24
    Rebeccakershaw
    JGwen (of course !!)

    PlumpGoose
    Russianroulade
    DebbieDarko
    weebleswobble
    nicoles212
    Steviep
    Zuzuvela
    Frog
    GreenGal
    EachPeach
    SusieMac1957
    Limes254
    Butterlover
    PhoenixBurns

  • posted by Film24
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    Howdy team! I’m in for another week 🙂 fell off the wagon a bit (a lot) on Sunday, but have picked myself back up and am ready for a GOOD week! Lost 5.5 pounds so far, which isn’t too much, but, the small changes i’m making (such as not grabbing a cookie every time I make a cup of coffee), means in the long run this number will be much larger! Have a great week team x F24

  • posted by Britta
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    Hi all
    I’m up for one more week, fifth week for me. Weightloss has slowed down a fair fit but 16lbs gone so far so I’m still winning. Sunny bank holiday on 800 calories was really tough. I’m getting better at the whole hunger/cravings wave thing though.
    Hope you all have a good week!

  • posted by LovesGroodles
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    Hi Everyone
    I haven’t lost any weight but my favourite shorts are looser around the waist. So a non-scale victory for me. I have had some success limiting my carbs, but the other day when I ate too much protein, I found that my craving for something sugary hit the roof. So, now I’m watching my protein intake as well, but I have increased my fat intake. I have not been calorie-restricting but have been eating to satiety. Unlike the past, I’m not rushing to lose the weight. This time, I’m taking it slower, hoping to make long-term changes to my eating habits that are sustainable for me.
    Many thanks for including me in the list of contributors. It means the world to me to be remembered.

  • posted by Rosyapple
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    Morning lovely people! 🌞
    I stuck to just over 800cal yesterday even though I was babysitting, the early morning and after school/bedtime shift. There were quite a few temptations around but I kept reminding myself why I am doing this
    1. To lose weight and gain good health.
    2. To wear “normal ” sized clothes.
    3. To eradicate PCOS symptoms.
    4. To stop taking or drastically reduce blood pressure medication.
    5. To build up a regular exercise routine.
    6. To feel good, especially in the summer.
    This last one is feeling quite urgent as the weather here in England is hotting up. This is something I feel very anxious about and the time of year that I am most likely to hide away. So many issues around this – sweating, discomfort of being so hot and red, not feeling comfortable baring my body, thigh rub and generally not feeling good in myself.
    So, I am trying to hold these things uppermost in my mind when faced with cravings and temptation. It helped a lot yesterday.
    Here’s to another 800cal day, one day at a time!
    I hope you all have a good week and thanks for being there 🌹🍏

  • posted by WindyJulz
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    I’m in for the week. Ive lost a stone in 5 weeks.
    Well done Lovesgroodles – non-scale victories are great!! You sound like you are doing well, sustainable habits are key, and I’m not great at it!
    I am struggling a bit now…..motivation comes and goes…. and when it goes I’m pretty sad and hungry. This is generally in the evenings I am still hungry. I realise this is almost certainly all in my head, total mental hunger, as i managed easily to run yesterday lunchtime after fasting for 18 hours, no worries and not hungry or weak. After a 230 calorie lunch at 1pm I was pretty hungry again at 4pm, had an early dinner at 5pm – 400 calorie salad with a 120 cal natural yogurt after. Then went outside for 3 hours and came in hungry…… had a coffee with cream, couple of slices of cheese and a wee bowl of salad. Result is i was at 1000 calories for the day….. I know i should have just gone to bed and not had the cheese and salad but….. i felt all sad, its when we would usually have snacked on crisps or chocolate – obvs salad and cheese is a better option but now im cross as i havent really made 800 calories consistently in a few weeks….
    Any thoughts / tips / kicking of my rear??

    Anyway, going to try one meal a day today and see how we get on. I have some mice to make home made burgers which i’ll have with some cheese and lettuce and maybe a side of broccoli or cauliflower of some sort…..

  • posted by WindyJulz
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    Oh and Britta – 16lbs is fantastic! Go you!!!! I think i needed to read that – you’ve perked me up – come on Julz, you can nail the 800 calories!!

  • posted by EachPeach
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    Yay for non scale victories LovesGroodles! After loosing 17 lbs i haven’t lost anything in about 6 days – i feel a plateau is upon me… Sticking with it and even threw in a 24 hour fast but must admit, it is slightly demotivating. Reading plateau threads religiously and keeping carbs under 30 grams now. Hoping to move past this soon!

  • posted by Rosyapple
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    Morning lovely people! 🌞
    (Decided to have a look at the edit function and lost my post, so here I go again!)
    I stuck to just over 800cals yesterday despite babysitting the girls early morning and for the afternoon/bedtime shift. Lots of temptations around which I managed to resist. I had to keep reminding myself why I am doing this.
    1. To discard weight and gain better health.
    2. To wear “normal ” sized clothes.
    3. To eradicate PCOS symptoms.
    4. To stop taking or drastically reduce blood pressure medication.
    5.To build up a regular exercise routine.
    6. To feel good, especially in the summer.
    This last one feels quite urgent as the weather here in England is hotting up. This makes me anxious and it’s the time of year that I am most likely to hide away. It’s the sweating, thigh rubbing, being hot and red, not wanting to bare my body, uncomfortable time of year. I think I need to hold this uppermost in my mind every time I have cravings or temptations.
    I really don’t want to blow this.
    I’m at a threshold now, 13st 9llb, I’ve been here before and I can become complacent at this point, probably because I feel better at having discarded a sizeable amount (2st 5lbs overall) and improvements are evident. I can move more easily, my joints don’t hurt so much, I’m wearing smaller clothes, I can see my cheek bones etc. I think it’s time to push on through and get to where I want to be. I think with your help I can do this though I feel as if I am moving in to unknown territory.
    Have a great week all and thank you for your continued support 🌹🍏

  • posted by EachPeach
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    Rosyapple, that is such a great list. I’m also at that threshold point – i’ve been at this point before but never past it. This is the time for both of us, I’m sure. Keep going!

  • posted by Puddy
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    Good morning, everyone, I’m here for another week. Thanks to Sunny and Wendy for your words that will help to keep us on track this week.

    Well done everyone for their weight loss, any loss, weight or measurements is a win!

    After my blip a couple of weeks ago, my body seems to have forgiven me and I’m losing again! 3 lbs again last week! I’m now out of the 13s , JUST, at 12 st 13 lbs. Just 3 lbs to being in a “healthy” weight range. I’m still on 20g net carbs, but am gradually increasing calories, so that hopefully by the time I loose the weight to be at Jason fung’s optimum bmi, I’ll know what I can and can’t eat for long term woe. At the moment I find 900 to 1000 easy and will stick to that for a few more weeks, even though I have gone over the 12 weeks recommended for VLCD.
    One question on my mind is how long it takes from eating food to it showing on the scales. The reason I ask is that if I’m experimenting with gradual changes to see what my long term woe is going to look like, both in terms of carbs and weight, how long before I see a reaction. It’s easy for carbs, I can just use my blood sugar monitor, but I’m not sure about calories.

  • posted by SunnyB
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    Thanks for posting the list of all our previous posters Wendy. It’s that attention to detail that I lack 😁.
    RosyApple and EachPeach (together you could be fruit salad?🤣) please stop thinking about what’s happened at this point in the past. This is all new … new approach and new attitude, so actually you have not ever been in this situation before. You will both soon be reporting breaking through to the 12st bracket and we’ll all be here to celebrate with you. That’s a brilliant list Rosy and I’m sure it will resonate with many others too.

    Groodles – that’s a great NSV. Film24 and Britta, well done on results so far and we’ll be looking forward to you reporting more progress soon. Julz hang in there and shout when things get tough, we’ll do our best to help you through. Things are very up and down for many of us at the moment, we just need to remember all things pass and soon life will be more normal again.

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    Woohoo, Puddy🎉🤸‍♀️! Great result! Think JGwen is the best person to answer you question, so hopefully she will pick up on it for you. Meanwhile, revel in your success to date.

  • posted by zuzuvela
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    Good morning all,
    I’m on day 2 of Week 7 and very pleased with how things are going so far. When I look back a few weeks, I notice that I’m now finding my way with a daily structure that works for me. It’s not always easy to stick with it due to my work schedule, but I’m getting better at working around it now. Working from home is easier because I can always make something easy for lunch rather than going to the supermarket.

  • posted by caronl
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    Hi all, Wendleg you are right that some of us have been a bit quiet lately…. I had to dust down and start again (yet again!). But still committed and still pointing in the right direction. It’s not worth reporting the discard, because I feel like I claim credit for the same kilos over and over again!! Enough of all that, and Keep on Keeping On. I want to fit into my summer wardrobe, and enjoy the sunny weather. So I’m in for the coming week.

    Lovely to hear the positives, the determination, hard-won successes, and resolution in the face of plateaus and recalcitrant scales. Have a good week everyone. xx

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    Julz just on your tips for sticking with 800 calories question. I do go a bit above every now and again, but I have developed this new sport which is basically feeling the wave sort of thing (I was never a surfer, but that is kind of how I imagine it). I’m not really a willpower type of person normally, but I have discovered that I can feel the hunger / craving (latter is worse than former), notice that it is there, and then I get really stubborn and basically wait for it to pass. Sometimes I just sit and feel it for a bit (telling myself that I’m feeling myself get slimmer in real time) other times I distract myself for a bit, until it goes away. And it does go away. And then afterwards I feel ever so pleased with myself! Its a bit like going to the gym, you really don’t want to, but when did you ever do it and then afterwards think that you really wish you hadn’t?!

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    Just got to the end of a week of intermittent fasting, which I found a lot easier than I anticipated, with many days being longer fasts than the 16/8 that I was aiming for – and after smallish losses each day, half a kilo heavier than yesterday.
    I know it’s always a bit up and down from day to day, and it would be better to look at a seven day average, but frustrating!
    Not sure if its in my head – but this is the first morning that I’m feeling hungry – other days I’ve not been eating until early afternoon. Grrrr

    I don’t measure my blood sugar, but I think that’s improved -I slept for about six hours without needing to go to the loo, and didn’t need to go the moment I woke/got up either – so there are some benefits.

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    Britta – you are a genius! I need to have faith that a hunger pang / craving will pass and ride the wave and take a sporting sort of attitude to it…. perfect for my mentality! Yes! Thank you! I think when I’m having a little pang at 8pm and I know i dont plan to eat until at least the following lunchtime, it feels like i will be hungry the whole time…. i need to remember I wont be, next meal will arrive and I’ll be ok until then. Then take pleasure in the pang as it means I’m burning fat and pride in the achievement of resitting! Excellent! Now just to manage to do it!!
    Such a fascinating journey for everyone, learning so much about myself!
    I’ve also persuaded hubby to swap sugary snack for healthier alternatives – just made him some keto fudge – i wont be tempted as i made it with penutbutter which i cant stand (If i’d made it with coconut we’d be in high risk territory so that can wait until I reach target weight!) but it has to be a better snack than his usual bar of chocolate. Poor chap has had to listen to me bang on about food for weeks!!

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    Morning everyone and thank you your kind words Sunny, JGwen, Olive and dreamscometrue following my bitter disappointment at last weeks gain when I stepped on the scales yesterday with anticipation of a loss. Life is all about ups and downs and it gave me chance to put things into perspective. Yes, I worked hard to lose but it just didn’t happen last week. I’ve been fortunate enough not to have been ill with Covid and don’t know anyone who has been so I thank my lucky stars that I only have to worry about a 4lb gain! So, yesterday I decided that I will keep on keeping on. The scales are usually accurate, digital all singing and all dancing scales that tell me my water, fat, body composition etc so it wasn’t a technical blip, it was more than likely a combination of the lentil gratin (delicious by the way) heat, lack of water etc etc. Anyway, I am still working hard at getting back into my jeans. I was very hungry this morning after eating very little yesterday so I have had one of my favourite breakfasts (I don’t normally eat breakfast but I did today) I had Greek yoghurt with pecans and hot raspberries – delicious! I kept thinking about having breakfast in bed all night as I was so hungry!

    Thank you JGwen for the link to the metabolism boosting video. I am going to take on board some of the top tips and my apple cider vinegar will be making a guest appearance once again. I got to really enjoy a glass of it prior to my dinner so I will try that again. It also suggested reducing caffeine intake so I will try that. I have previously wondered if I have had thyroid issues but all my blood test have been normal. One thing I know from my experience following BSD is that I will never be able to go back to “normal” eating. I have to be so careful because my body literally doesn’t seem to metabolise well. I have an extremely slow metabolic rate and like you JGwen am very insulin resistant.

    So, here’s to another week. I will look carefully at what I am eating, stay focused and stay positive and like Sunny said, I know this way of eating works, it did in 2017 but I know I need to learn patience and the art of positive thinking. I do have strong willpower and determination so I am going to crack on this week and make some progress.

    Thank you for the continued support, advice and honesty that we share together in the forum. I know I couldn’t do this without your support and I am very grateful. Here’s to a great week. Let’s come out of lockdown feeling good about ourselves and what we did for ourselves and each other

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    Cathy, really pleased you have dusted yourself down and will be continuing with us. Also pleased you have recognised that a return to previously ‘normal’ eating, is not a realistic option, as that is what brought us to the BSD in the first place.
    I too found that video link very interesting JGwen and will be looking at what I could do with tweaking.
    Julz, well done on persuading your OH to make adjustments, which ultimately can only be good for him😁
    Frog, well done on cracking the intermittent fasting and Don’t worry about that blip, I’m sure it will be temporary.
    Britt, realky liking your coping strategy for those pangs and cravings.
    Caro n, pleased you’re in for another week and I’m sure you’ll consolidate the loss of those kg soon.
    Zuzu, glad things are going well and you have found a daily structure, it really does make things easier when things fall into a pattern rhat works for us.
    So pleased to have so many of you traveling with for another week and will look forward to reading all your posts.

  • posted by Olive_1
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    Hi all,
    I’m in for another week. This will be my 19th week, and with 0,5 kg loss over the last week I’m down a total of 13 kg (just over 2 stones). Looking back now over the months I can see that in the first month I lost 5.5 kg, and after that I have lost 2 kg per month, which makes approx. 0,5 kg per week on average (just over 1 lb a week). To me this is not fast weight loss, but it is at least a slow and consistent loss. I also have weeks with no loss at all – but it evens out in the long run. If I keep the same rate I would reach my goal by October, but I know summer is usually hard for me so would not be surprised with a (hopefully small) gain over the summer and then it will be more like end of the year to reach the goal.
    This may sound awfully long to some, but I’m not daunted. I’m not super strict with counting calories (not counting at all actually) but have full focus on keeping my carbs down, eating lots and lots of vegetables, good protein and keeping my fat content up. I know that if I eat too much carbs, I get cravings, if I don’t get enough of the fat (and to some extent protein) I get hungry. I don’t believe you need to go hungry to lose weight. I think about it as I need to restore trust between me and my body, that it will get fed what it needs, and I will try to listen to it, and it will in return let go of the excess weight. It’s kind of like trying to find the “flow” – where things feel good and everything just works. Learning this fine tuning will take time – so just a bonus that I need to keep going for another couple of months really. When (notice that there is no If here) I get to goal I can’t imagine that I will change very much to the way I eat now, perhaps slightly change the portion size, or allow some more excesses at weekends etc.
    Since a couple of weeks I’ve added intermittent fasting, 16:8 or 18:6, a couple of times a week. I find that this is quite easy, and that it helps to refocus the brain on what I should be doing.
    Right now I’m in a good place, and hope to keep it going.

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    HI everyone.my first day of getting back to bsd and I found the bread craving a challenge.Its going to take a few days to settle into the proper routine.Thanks so much to who ever posted the link to YouTube.yesterday.I used it and spent the morning looking at Jason fung and others refreshed my knowledge of insulin resistance etc this really helped my motivation.Ihope everyone is keeping positive for a great week.

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    Olive, every little is a step in the right direction so should he celebrated and I’m loving your positivity…. when, not if!
    Butterlover, welcome back. I’m sure you will recognise quite a few of the people posting on the weekly thread, as there have been several returners wanting to use lockdown productively. As usual, we’re all trying to support and encourage each other, sharing our experience, advice and knowledge. Your contribution will be much appreciated.

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    Hi Puddy, that’s a really good question.

    I think there are two elements to the answer. – First of all really its not weight but body composition that is the key issue. – Stronger bones and muscles both weigh more than the alternative. I don’t know if you have looked at Dr Fungs work but he has an assistant who was one of his first cases and now works alongside him. Megan Ramos. She is very open with people that when she got down to her target weight she realised she still looked overweight. She continued fasting and working out and dropped another 2 dress sizes but gained 15kg in the process. She also talks about women coming into the clinic who look like scarecrows with belts used to hold up the trousers that used to be too small for them, who have discarded inches from their waists between appointments but burst into tears when the scales do not show a discard.

    High insulin levels block your body from producing growth hormone. Its that hormone which controls how strong your bones are, which would you prefer, a lower reading on the scales and worrying about breaking bones as you get older and at risk of falls. – Or a higher reading of the scales that has no impact on your dimensions?

    Therefore, rather than using weight I would suggest you use a tape measure to monitor the effect of calories.

    I will get off my soap box now and say about the other issue. – a lb of fat contains 3500 calories. – Its easy when we discard a lot of weight at the start because of discarding water weight to forget this data.

    I follow a few facebook pages, where lots of useful data pops up from time to time. – One of those is for people on a keto WoE. – I have seen a number of examples on there of people who stay under 20g of carbs and loose weight while eating calories in the range above their basic metabolic rate but less than the calories burned by adding up the BMR and exercise.

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    There is a third point I want to make, the above two may make it sound easy to enter maintenance. – Some people do find it easy. but I also put my hand up and say I am not one of them. – It isn’t a case of do what I say not what I do. – I worked hard over 2 years sticking with this WoE to get down to my initial target weight. When I got there I realised that I wasn’t at my target body shape and I had another couple of dress sizes to discard. – But after 2 years of focusing so much on food and staying on 800 calories I wanted to spend some time maintaining my achievements and enjoying life at that level before getting back on the wagon. – Its been a struggle to maintain and I think the reason is that I am still IR. – I suspect that I need to heal that to make it easier to maintain. So that will be my next focus.

    One of the great advantages of this WoE is the opportunity to learn how our bodies work, and from that learn what we need to do for our own health. Don’t worry about maintenance, you now have a greater knowledge of how to fuel your body for your health. You have a chorus of people who will cheer you on, and put a helping hand out to help you back onto the wagon when you need it.

    But there is one thing to bear in mind. you can’t expect to go back to your old way of eating.

  • posted by wendleg
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    Hi everyone
    I just wanted to share something which popped into my inbox today

    It’s an invitation to a free summit
    « What we crave : The Emotional Eating Summit «

    Each episode is FREE to watch for 24 hours before being replaced with the next episode in line. There are various speakers, doctors, therapists, researchers and other health professionals as well as victims and survivors

    It begins today May 26th , running over 9 consecutive days

    Here’s the official trailer

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GttJBFaT9UQ#action=share

    You can register here

    http://www.whatwecrave.com

    Seeing as emotional eating is frequently mentioned on the forum as a major challenge, it might be worth a watch.

    I will catch up with all your posts tomorrow ! Today was taken up with work and a much needed haircut !!!

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    Thanks so much JGwen for such a comprehensive answer. There’s lots there for me to think about as I plan the next few weeks. I can relate to what you say about measurements v weight, having had a slow couple of weeks on the scale, but definitely changing shape. I look down at my legs and think “who are you and what have you done with my chubby thighs”! I’m running twice a week, doing Zumba gold, a Barre class and yoga, so I’m hoping the bones and muscles are developing..

    I was hoping that I could use the scales to monitor the impact of the gradual changes that I will be making to my calorie intake because I thought that changes might show up more quickly there than on my waistline but I guess that I need to blend that with understanding my body! I’m sure I’m still IR, although my diabetes is diet controlled now I’m on the BSD.

    I thanks for the support, I’m sure I’ll continue to need it it!

  • posted by GreenGal
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    Hey guys,
    Happy to say I finished my 42 hour fast.. felt a bit wobbly but it’s definitely doable. I am going to consider it as a tool in my kit to help with my weight loss and bring it out as and when I need it.

    What I do realise that I like is OMAD, it’s fairly easy for me to skip breakfast and lunch if I keep busy with chores etc, it helps me to keep closer to my 800. So I think that during the week I will do OMAD or 23/24 hour fasts on several days, 3 x a week at least, 16/8 on others and at weekends do 12/12. Interspersed with a few 42 hour fasts here and there.
    I realise I need to watch my protein as much as my carbs.. went for it on the meat front over the weekend with tasty steak/chicken dishes etc but I realise I over did it so that my next thing to double down on.

    Other than than 10 pounds down in 2 weeks and hopefully looking to break the 14 pound/stone barrier this week. Just gotta keep focussed on the little things, counting cals, recording snacks, and drinking the water… as for me it’s the little things that make all the difference between a zero loss and a good loss of a few pounds.

    I am trying to ask my self questions when I got to the kitchen, Do you want this BSD friendly snack that will ultimately put you over your cals OR do you want to get in that dress, see that number on the scales, what do you want more? It’s helped me to step away from the fridge on a few occasions!

    RosyApple and Eachpeach it’s exciting times.. well done for your success so far and now you guys have the chance to break that threshold … it will feel soooo good and such a motivation to continue.. Excited to hear your news..

    Well done everyone for keeping posting and well for just keeping going.. they are victories in themselves! Bon chance GreenGal 🥦

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    hello folks!
    Gosh-so may posts resonated with me this week!!
    CC, like you I did this WOE in 2017 and then gradually let slide…and like you, Roseyapple, it happened when i reached….not goal but a “comfortable ” stage where I started looking good in some I my clothes etc etc.. (also re your post last week, Zuzuvela I got complacent-and probably didn’t face the mirror or the scales enough!!) ..so this time, I’m definitely setting a goal of 65kg, no matter how long it takes (I’m about 10kg away from that now)
    Like you, Olive, I find summer harder (weird, when you think salads would be so easy) but I find soups a very easy and satisfying and I also move more in the cooler weather (hate getting too sweaty on a longer walk!!)
    and Wendy-yes “our” mountain is the best thing…I love her in all weather-the govt closed the mountain tracks in the first COVID response, but they’ve been open again for a couple of weeks, and I’m certainly not the only one out there enjoying it!!
    have a wonderful week, all!

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    Morning everyone 😊
    My foot has almost healed, I reckon in a day or 2 I can get walking again. That means getting out early to avoid the heat and the masses.
    Pottering in the greenhouse and garden this morning, growing lots of lovely stuff to eat 🍅🌶🥬
    I’m finding 800cal really challenging, managed it on Monday but yesterday felt the need for an ounce of cheese after lunch and dinner, taking the count to 950.
    I’ve ordered a copy of the Fast800 to see if that helps. What I’m finding tricky is calorie content, haven’t much knowledge about this (have got Fatsecret app) and not being able to trust calorie content in recipes. Or am I just stalling and making excuses???
    I am very keen to break through this threshold of 13st 9 and see some rapid progress if only to get in to the 12st bracket as an interim goal.
    I’m a bit all over the place! I need more focus. Going to try my hardest to plan a strict 800cal week .
    Keep up the good work everyone and thanks as always for all your responses and posts 🌹🍏

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    Hello friends. Still here and have just been catching up on this wonderfully busy thread. I’m getting so much from all the positive and pragmatic thinking going on at a time when my usually positive attitude to everything is taking a bit of a beating. I think I need to try to spread some of the motivation and determination I have for this WOE into other parts of my life at the moment.

    I love the idea of ‘riding the wave’ of hunger. Learning that it’s okay to experience hunger has been a big thing for me. With our culture of snacks and convenience food I think we are programmed to think it’s a dangerous and painful thing that needs an emergency response. Looking back it was a few months of observing the WOE strictly for me before I think I really spotted real hunger, rather than carb cravings or the emotional eating urges disguising themselves as hunger. I think that’s partly because real hunger won’t crop up much if we are eating well. I know it’s hard to believe when you are battling hard with impulses, but they honestly do go if we refuse to listen to them for long enough. I think of it as a bit like someone trying to start an argument with me. If I refuse to engage and bite back for long enough, they would eventually get bored and go and look for trouble elsewhere! I hasten to add that I don’t find myself in that position often, it’s just an analogy 😆.

    Lots of love to everyone. Take it day by day and remember that however imperfectly you might be following the WOE you are almost certainly being kinder to your body and health than you have been for years. That’s a huge achievement in itself.

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    Rosy, try not to be overly concerned with the calories, but do try to keep an eagle eye on the carbs, as they are the bigger issue. If you can push the cals to nearer 800 all well and good, but it isn’t the be all and end all. Hopefully you are getting your carb levels from fatsecret, which will give you an idea if you need to adjust that down a little or not.
    If you come to a point where tighter control on the carbs isn’t enough, then by all means look to reduce the cals down to the 800.
    Bryla, it seems you are getting to know your body really well and understand your mental/emotional drivers too. I see much positivity in your post, so more of your BSD positive attitude is spilling over than you might think.

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    When I first started BSD I had no idea of the science behind the way of eating. I simply cut out all the white carbs ie bread, potatoes, rice, pasta etc and gradually over the years I tweaked things like fasting, time restricted eating etc. I think if when you start this way of eating you make it simple for yourself then I think it’s easier to tweak things when you hit plateaux which is inevitable when trying to lose weight long term . This way of eating is for life so there is no rush to get it right straight away. I have also learned that it is quite a forgiving way of eating so if one day you have a blip, you can get back at it. I’ve used this technique over the years for special occasions! Feast and famine I think Jason Fung refers to it. When I get to my goal weight again I am going to use these tools to try to maintain my weight- something I found difficult first time round!

    Tonight is the last clap for our key workers and nhs staff In the uk and every week I have clapped for a particular group of people. Tonight I am also going to be clapping for my friends on this forum who have kept me from coming out of lockdown massively overweight and for helping me to keep on the straight and narrow. Thanks to everyone for being there to support us through a very difficult few weeks.

    I am feeling good about carrying on with my journey and it doesn’t matter how long it takes! Those jeans will fit and even if I have to wear them on Christmas Day I will wear them. White looks nice at Christmas anyway! .

    Come on everyone- let’s do this!

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    Cathy, I can’t tell you how delighted I was to read your post! It’s full of positivity and determination, so completely focused again and forgiving yourself for being human. Think You are right that starting BSD simply is a good way to go. It is a huge learning curve at the beginning and can be totally overwhelming if one tries to apply every aspect at once.

    You WILL get in those white jeans and with this kind of attitude, well before Christmas …. but your right, winter white looks great!

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    Thanks, Sunny. I have just arranged a walk with a friend for tomorrow and could just cry with relief!

    RosyA. So glad your toe is healing!
    Please take another breath! You drive yourself so hard. Stop it! Can I check what your idea of rapid weight loss is? When everything is going right we can expect to discard 1-2lb a week (after that initial rush when we get rid of water weight). In some respects I’ve had a pretty easy ride and I’ve been stricter than strict throughout, but there have been weeks when the scales didn’t move and that seems to be the common experience. Are your expectations realistic?

    I agree wholeheartedly with Sunny. However, I wonder whether the recipes are holding you hostage?! They are not the WOE, just inspiration and it sounds like they are stressing you out! I didn’t have the first clue about calorie and carb content either at the beginning. I learned what a healthy portion of a particular food looks with the help of Fat Secret and the kitchen scales over weeks and weeks. Only you know if you are making excuses, but I’m pretty sure you are being unfairly impatient with yourself! We all have to learn as we go. Give yourself chance to learn how to navigate around Fat Secret and you will soon be able to use it to your advantage.

    We are all different, but it would blow my mind to plan the whole week of eating in one go. If my fridge is full of BSD friendly veg, salad, protein and fat then I know I won’t run out of food. I choose how to combine that one day at a time. The benefit of living alone is that we can just please ourselves. Delicious, complicated recipes are great, but so is a delicious chicken thigh or portion of fish with greens or salad and butter or cheese. I don’t know if that would work for you Rosy. I know what works for me is being strict with myself, but only one day at a time. Just hang on to the basics. I think all the books are great, but the basics won’t change. We need patience to just stick with it – there is no secret key that you are missing, other than being kinder to yourself! I wonder if you are a bit of a perfectionist like me. Don’t let the best be the enemy of the pretty damned good!

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    Completely inspirational Bryla! You are so right about taking time to learn as we go and keeping things simple. Most days I cook very simply …. meal on the table in 30mins. I too just stock up on BSD foods and decide day to day what will be on the menu, but I know it helps others to plan ahead … another example of how we all need to find the approach that works for us.
    Finally, I really love your last sentence “Don’t let the best be the enemy of the pretty damned good!”, something most of us need to remember from time to time.

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    Hi Everyone, I had an strange day today.I woke up at 11am I was mad at my hubby for letting me sleep.wasted half a day.I was surprised the Ive lost 0.7 kg..Did a bit of vigorous housework to get some exercise.Eating is mostly on BSD principles I plan to start calorie counting and monitoring macsos next week.Consider this as a transition week.we are having grey ,rainy and windy weather so I’m struggling to get out for a walk.I hope everyone is d.oing well

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    Hello everyone, the weather is beautiful over here so I’m going for a walk later. I just had 2.5 hours of online meetings so my eyes feel like they’re done for the day. Following my plank success (and 1 minute yesterday) I’ve decided to start a plank challenge (one of the less hardcore ones…) to see how I get on. Other than that, I do upper body weights/Pilates every other day and I go for a walk every day (usually about 35-45 minutes).

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    Hi everyone, I’m afraid I’m having quite a down moment with regard to my progress, or rather lack of. I had put on a bit of weight again due to some carb creep a few weeks ago, so the last 2 weeks I’ve been really, really strict in the hopes of kickstarting weight loss again. Nothing has happened though. In fact, I’ve gained another 0.5kg and my measurements have gone up as well. I gained 2 inches around my waist, which is really discouraging as my clothes are getting tight again. I’ve been exercising, walking, jogging, doing some HIIT, etc, so at the very least, even if I was gaining muscle I would expect to be getting smaller. Now my belly is so distended that I just look about 6 months pregnant. I’m not really enjoying my food at this low carb level either (20-30g per day). It has become quite monotonous. So this whole thing seems very pointless if I’m not going to lose weight and I’m running out of time to fit into my summer clothes, and I’m still more than 10kg too heavy to ride. I don’t know what is wrong with my body, but it seems like I must have really damaged my metabolism to be in this state where I just can’t shift all this extra fat. I was having difficulty with sleep last week, so I can understand that my cortisol levels may have been a bit high, but what I can’t understand is how this hormone that is supposed to be for fight or flight seems to just magic calories out of thin air and pack them into my fat stores.
    Anyway, sorry for the rant. Quite a low moment when I stepped on the scales this morning and took my measurements.

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    Arcticfox I’m not much of an authority on bsd in particular (as opposed to other diets) but is there a chance that this is related to hormones? I can’t remember how long you have been doing this, but I have a period of around 10 days every month where I do not seem to be able to lose weight. If I’m not on a diet that’s when I put on a couple of kg. Adding insult to injury that is also when I am the most vulnerable in terms of mood (more likely to get upset and eat chocolate) so it’s not a great time… Often I’ll lose quite a few lbs as soon as period is over if I have been sticking with diet, and the whole thing starts again. There is a lot of good books you can get about the relationship between gut and hormones, they’ve definitely helped me get to terms with this great injustice of the female body a bit better…

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    Arcticfox- your post resonated with me so much as I too posted something very similar on Monday after putting on 4lb this week despite a good, solid week. Like you I was SO disappointed and was grumpy all day. It’s so hard to keep plodding on when the scales don’t move in the right direction despite our best effort and I feel your pain. I have no answers except to say that we have to just keep on . JGwen posted a good link about how to get metabolism going again which I watched and have taken some of the things on board to try and get my weight moving. I am back on the apple cider vinegar and have had some pink Himalayan salt. I don’t know if it will make any difference but I sincerely hope that these things might help. I am not going to weigh myself until Monday as I can’t bear to be miserable day in and day out but I will keep on and I hope that my tight jeans will at some point be wearable even if it takes me until Christmas. I wanted to wear them for my birthday on 15th June but that’s not going to happen!! . I just wanted you to know that you’re not on your own with your disappointment. I know exactly how you feel. What I do know is that this way of eating worked for me in 2017 when I lost 42 lbs. It was slow but this time it seems even slower! When you get to where you want to be it doesn’t really matter how long it takes. Maybe I/we have messed up our metabolism over the years. I have been a dieter for the last 30 years! I have had time to think about what I want to do and I do want to get to a healthy weight so I will keep going and I hope you will too. Please don’t give up.

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    Hi everyone, I started several weeks ago and then it felt like everything collapsed around me – had to work incredibly long hours in addition to being responsible for homeschooling for the kids alone – alltogether 13-14 hours a day, so I didn’t find time for mye long long walks – and I desperately need it to feel good – and gradually went back to not having the planned eating habits, some days quite bad – at least it made me feel bad. Slept bad. So eating out of plan doesn’t help at all. Will start 800kcal/day again – filled the fridge with lovely heatlhy food – and will just make room for my walks everyday (I plan to start running again over the summer – when I have lost some more weight). Three walks daily; morning, lunch and evening (long) – if I don’t – nobody will make room for it. Tomorrow. Again.
    I need some support. Feel so lonely in this difficult life situation. But still feel lucky, so much good in my life. It is so inspiring to read your posts.

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    Quetzal, you are not alone in finding life very challenging at the moment. Many have been struggling recently, we are all human and there will be times when we get overloaded and overwhelmed.

    We are of course here to offer whatever support and encouragement we can. Good to know you have a plan going forward, but don’t put too much on yourself right now, when demands on your time are already really high, you don’t need any further stressors. Just do what you can with getting your eating back on track and include manageable exercise, but if there isn’t time for three walks, allow yourself the latitude to forego one or two as necessary.

    We’ll be here whenever you need to vent, ask for support or celebrate a win 🙂

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    Thank you SunnyB. So Nice words to read. You are so right.

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    Thanks so much for your replies Britta and Cathy. I was definitely down in the dumps this morning and it did affect my day a bit as well.
    Britta, I certainly have been struggling with hormones as I seem to be going through perimenopause. I was even getting hot flushes earlier in the year, but since discarding a bit of weight, they have mostly disappeared. Unfortunately I am at the point in my cycle when I have discarded all of my excess water weight and should be weighing the least, so can’t really blame that this time. Most of my weight loss at the beginning of this year occurred as a result of going on iron supplements. I came off them just as Covid was starting here as I had done my full intensive course of them and I didn’t stay on a maintenance dose because I was worried about carrying extra iron and catching Covid. I think I may go back on them and see what happens.
    Cathy, I so know the feeling. I seemed to lose weight effortlessly on 800 cal per day back in 2017, but I feel like my body is betraying me now somehow. Just goes to show it isn’t all about calories.
    I did start to think today that I have made some progress, and that is that I am not hungry anymore. The bump up in my protein intake has taken care of that. So I think I will start fasting again as well as it is the only thing that was working for me and jump starting my metabolism. I was just so fed up this morning thinking that I was eating so little and not enjoying it, so what was the point? I think I was happier fasting as I could be a bit more flexible with my meals. So, I’ll take this drop in hunger and use it to help me carry on with what I know was working.
    Once I got to work, I also realized that of course I am still fighting with the OSH committee over the disinfectant use. I’ve had 2 asthma attacks already this week in spite of trying to avoid exposure as much as possible, and they are being so slow in coming up with an alternative (more than 3 weeks now!). I finally started down the road towards a formal work safety complaint by documenting my issue with one of the first aid attendants yesterday, and she was very sympathetic and said of course it was something that needs to be fixed, and fast! But the powers that be were still dragging their heels even today. As well as triggering my asthma, the disinfectant seems to be triggering some sort of whole body inflammatory response where I get extremely fatigued and have sore joints. So it seems like this generalized inflammation could be preventing weight loss as well, now that I think about it.
    Anyway, hope everyone had a much better day that I did, and hopefully mine will improve here on out as well!

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    Good morning 🌞
    I have reached my first goal which was to lose 1 stone. My small Jeans are feeling comfortable and I have lost another inch from my tummy making that 3 altogether. This took one month to achieve and after some consideration I will be looking to discard 1/2 a stone this month, as my next goal, which will take me to below 13st. I hope!
    I don’t know what all the worry has been about, freaking out about calories the whole time and worrying this WOE won’t work….I must be doing something right!
    I think my average calorie count each day has been just over 1,000. I am sure that ditching milk in drinks and porridge has helped.
    I’m looking after the girls this morning and I only have desire for my yogurt/fruit/nut breakfast and not all the wheaty sugary things on offer here. I know how much harm they’ll do if I indulge. That feels good!
    Have a good day y’all !! X 🌹🍏

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    Huge congratulations, Rosyapple! That is such good news and such great progress!

    I fully understand the questioning that you go through when you don’t see much movement. I always remind myself that if you keep on eating 800 calories a day there is absolutely NO WAY you cannot lose weight. It is an absolute given. The speed at which that happens relies on lots of things (hello carbs) but it’s coming one way or another 🙂 That helps me keep going. Have a good one!

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    Thanks Eachpeach!
    I’m feeling so much better in myself…
    Going to celebrate later with a slow roasted lamb shank and buttered garlicky greens. Love butter! Have just discovered an unpasteurized, meadow fed, French one that I’m looking forward to trying later.
    🌹🍏

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    Woohoo!🤸‍♀️🎉 Great news Rosy!! EachPeach is so right about the 800 cals. Logic says that if we persist, the pounds HAVE to fall. It might not happen when we think it should, but it WILL happen.
    Arcticfox, glad that you are feeling a little more balanced and in control today. I’m wondering if the allergic reaction you are experiencing at work, might be impacting in other ways, inflammation will likely hang on to fluid which would show on the scales. With regard to perimenopause, that was when weight issues really hit me and I felt completely betrayed by my body. I’m convinced if I’d had this WoE then, it would have saved me several unhappy years. Being perimeno might be the reason why you’re finding things a bit more difficult now than in 2017, but personally I’m convinced if you can stick with it, it will have a positive impact on your hormones and help to bring your body back into balance and those pounds will drop.

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