So – One week in – time to weigh
Male, 6ft 1in, Type 2 diabetes for 7 years, Not taking any diabetic meds, On Ramipril for elevated BP. Slim build – TOFI maybe

04th July 2016 Starting Weight – 13 st – 01 lb – 04 oz
11th July 2015 After One Week – 12 st – 09 lb – 09 oz
Total Loss = 05 lb – 11 oz

Pretty happy to say the least 🙂

Great result Ziggy!! Keep going and I’m sure you will get to where you want to be. Looking forward to hearing your progress, so keep us posted.

Thanks SunnyB,

Just got to keep telling myself that I am doing it for me, and the (supposed) Summer is a great time for doing it cause of all the salads etc. Do any people, as MM tells in his book, have to end it early, owing to having gotten to their goal (which in my case is diabetes reversal) early. I wouldn’t know if I have since
a) I don’t have testing equipment as the NHS don’t think type 2s have to test and
b) on this low cal diet, my BS post-meal would be normal as I’m not eating enough carbs to spike them.

Thanks for your encouragement

Hi Ziggy
If you want to test, there are reasonably cheap units for sale on Amazon – I bought on for about £12. I only test occasionally, as this wasn’t a particular issue for me, but I wanted to know where I was when I started, so that I could see if there was A) a potential issue on the blood sugar front and B) keep an eye on any changes.
Look forward to hear how you get on.

Thanks again – quel surprise it’s SunnyB!

Yeah I know about the cheap kits and you can even get free kits from testing suppliers online. I might think about getting one.

Once again muchos gracias for you help and encouragement

So – Two weeks in – time to weigh

Male, 6ft 1in, Type 2 diabetes for 7 years, Not taking any diabetic meds, On Ramipril for elevated BP. Slim build – TOFI maybe

04th July 2016 Starting Weight – 13 st – 01 lb – 04 oz
11th July 2016 After One Week – 12 st – 09 lb – 09 oz
18th July 2016 After Two Weeks – 12 st — 06 lb — 10 oz
Total Loss = 08 lb – 10 oz

Bit slower this week but still going in the right direction 😎

Fantastic progress, keep up the good work. Starting to slow is all to be expected (especially after the initial loss of fluids). Good luck on week three.

Well done Ziggy!! Confess to being a tad envious, as I have gone back up by a pound – again!!!!! Mind you, wasn’t as stringent as I could have been over the w/e as we were visiting our daughter, so had a take away and a meal out, all of which must have taken it’s toll. Still, back at it from today, keep everything crossed for me, that I see enough of a loss to register a full stone gone by this time next week.
Hope your week three goes well – keep us posted.

Thank you SunnyB.

You have to give yourself a raincheck for your weekend . I knew you were away this weekend. The thing about diets like this is that they are fine in the sanctuary of your own home but out in the wild world and food places and takeaways can ambush you.

Hope you get to that stone – how long has it taken to lose this stone, I know you have lost more? I will be waiting to hear of your success.

Week three day one all meals apart from my jelly, fruit and cream later Yum

Have you ever tried sweet potato toast?

I have been bouncing around within a pound or two of this stone for three weeks now. Need to really apply myself now and get it done.
Tell me about sweet potato toast please, as I’m always on the look out for interesting meal additions.
Tonight is cauli rice, two lamb sausages and leek au gratin. I’m doing well on fluids today – not struggling for once.
Anyway, look forward to hearing your report soon as well, hope week three goes well for you.

So – Three weeks in – time to weigh

Male, 6ft 1in, Type 2 diabetes for 7 years, Not taking any diabetic meds, On Ramipril for elevated BP. Slim build – TOFI maybe

04th July 2016 Starting Weight – 13 st – 01 lb – 04 oz
11th July 2016 After One Week – 12 st – 09 lb – 09 oz
18th July 2016 After Two Weeks – 12 st – 06 lb — 10 oz
25th July 2016 After Three Weeks – 12 st – -05 lb – 06 oz
This Weeks Loss – 01 lb – 04 oz
Total Loss = 09 lb – 14 oz

My thoughts on the week:- Was hoping for a bit more this week as I had upped my exercise to maybe 200% of normal, but at least it is going the right way. Onwards and downwards folks. 😎

Oh Ziggy! That’s an amazing loss – you must be just thrilled with that! Well done xx

Hey Ziggy – good to see you are still losing, if not quite as much as you had hoped. Keep plugging away, it will happen. I tipped over the brink of that illusive stone this week – at last! In fact I have had one of my best weeks’ loss this week – down 3.6lb. Don’t know what was different this week to cause that, but very happy for it nonetheless.
Now my new goal is to get to the point where my weight begins with an 8, which means I need to drop 9lb more. Had thought getting to that point was a dream too far, but it seems attainable now. If I can get there, I’ll be re-evaluating and deciding if I want to go any further or not, but right now, the aim is to get rid of the 9lb to my next target.
Keep on losing Ziggy, look forward to the next report.

Hi Ziggy

That’s a great result and the increased exercise is probably building muscle which is heavier than fat, so you have probably lost more fat this week.

@quinnt Thanks, I was thinking that that might somehow be the case – putting on a bit of muscle whilst losing fat. Thanks for your help.

@sunnyb – your path to weight loss is inspirational, so glad that stone (finally) came off, but expect that you are even more glad! What is your total loss to date? Again I’m doing this to try to lickstart my insulin etc and maybe have a normal bodily reaction to foodstuffs, the weight loss is a very acceptable side effect.

@nursebean – thank you. Looking at your progress you seem to be dropping the lbs too, hope it helps with your ME/CFS.

Hi Ziggy
Great progress. Nearly 10lbs in 3 weeks is fantastic. I know you were a little disappointed with your loss for last week but I agree that exercise will have an effect. You had a healthy BMI to begin with so the rate of loss is going to be less than someone classed as overweight or obese. The most important thing is to kick-start that insulin and reverse the type 2 diabetes. I believe that is your goal and this is the best diet to do it with. Good luck with week 4.

Thank you Middleage1. Hard to believe that week 4 is halfway over, it is flying in. And yes, the main purpose of the diet is trying to reverse Type 2 diabetes, the weight loss is a brilliant bonus. Have a HbA1c test this day fortnight.

So – Fourweeks in – half way through !!!!!! time to weigh
Male, 6ft 1in, Type 2 diabetes for 7 years, Not taking any diabetic meds, On Ramipril for elevated BP. Slim build – TOFI maybe
04th July 2016 Starting Weight – 13 st – 01 lb – 04 oz
11th July 2016 After One Week – 12 st – 09 lb – 09 oz
18th July 2016 After Two Weeks – 12 st – 06 lb — 10 oz
25th July 2016 After Three Weeks – 12 st – 05 lb – 06 oz
01st Aug 2016 After Four Weeks – 11 st – 12 lb – 08 oz
This Weeks Loss – 06 lb – 14 oz
Total Loss = 01 st – 02 lb – 12 oz

Can’t believe this week’s weight loss, was waiting for the plateau. Thoughts on why it may have happened.=
Kept up the increased exercise – including an 8 mile hike up a mountain and 3 miles earlier the same day.
However it happened I am very happy (not doing this for weight loss but surely this means the visceral fat is melting)

well done Ziggy, BUT sob sob, you weigh less than me and I am only 4 ft 11 and a woman. Guess that is why I am called obese.

Saw a great thing on FB today, quote ‘I have fat, I am not fat, I have fingernails but you don’t call me fingernails’. So, I am not obese I am just short for my weight. 🙂

“Short for my weight”, very good, and now you are undertaking the journey to balance your weight and your height, and the scales are slowly levelling up for you sunshine-girl..

Really amazed by my last week’s loss, my target is in sight this week – which is 11st 10 lb 15 oz (that is 10% weight loss so it is only 1lb 09 oz away. The 10% loss leaves me at a BMI of 21.6 which is pretty much ideal, but will this be enough to chase my visceral fat or should I go for a more emaciated look to be sure? I am going to continue anyway until my HbA1c on the 11th August.

How do people choose their targets anyway?

Hi Ziggy
You totally blitzed me this week. Almost 7 pounds loss was fantastic. I think you are right, the visceral fat is losing it’s battle to cling on. I don’t know what to say about your visceral fat conundrum though. Your BMI is well in the ball park for your height and build. The only thing I can think of is this. If you increase your muscle mass it will still allow the visceral fat to take a beating without jeopardising your healthy weight readings.
Of course this is just an amateur thought and probably a little bit of research may provide some form of answer. Great week for you. All the best.

@middleage1 – My 5th weigh in day tomorrow. Thanks for the thumbs up about last week’s result.

Your own loss is still going the right way, I think you will achieve your goal in 8 weeks.

Here’s one about muscle mass – Arnie Schwarzenegger (when he was younger) had a BMI of 33 and he had so little fat on his body. But I am not outwardly muscly either though I run quite often so my legs must have a muscle or two in them ?

Mañana

So – Fiveweeks in – half way through !!!!!! time to weigh
Male, 6ft 1in, Type 2 diabetes for 7 years, Not taking any diabetic meds, On Ramipril for elevated BP. Slim build – TOFI maybe
04th July 2016 Starting Weight – 13 st – 01 lb – 04 oz
11th July 2016 After One Week – 12 st – 09 lb – 09 oz
18th July 2016 After Two Weeks – 12 st – 06 lb — 10 oz
25th July 2016 After Three Weeks – 12 st – 05 lb – 06 oz
01st Aug 2016 After Four Weeks – 11 st – 12 lb – 08 oz
08th Aud 2016 After Five Weeks – 11 st – 10 lb – 08 oz
This Weeks Loss – 02lb – 00 oz
Total Loss = 01 st – 04 lb – 12 oz

Still losing. And passed my 10% target weight. So what now?
Will continue for another week or so as I have my Hba1c on Thursday and the figure of 11.5 stone is curiously attractive to me – which would mean another quarter stone to lose but may be out of my reach 🙂

Fabulous results Ziggy, hope your BS test goes well! OH just awaiting results from his last one (previous showed he had moved to normal figures, so Metformin halved).

What’s your plan if you reach your fabled 11st 5lbs ( no reason not to get there – for me my 9 st target was impossible, but I am now 2 lbs under that, aiming for 8 st 10 lb as final goal)?

That is great Ziggy, you now weigh less than me whereas last week you weighed the same. I get weighed tomorrow. Of course, I have realised that because I am on insulin is why I put on 3 stone in the first place and being on insulin makes it difficult to lose weight. My doctor says it is possible but I will have to work very hard. I was around 9 stone 7 lbs before the insulin and quickly went up to 12 stone 7 lbs and then around 13 stone.

@ sunshine-girl Are you not finding that you have to use less insulin sunshine-girl? Especially with your BRILLIANT results form you Hba1c.

@Ignorsusual Thank you. Your OH returned to normal BS levels and they kept him on some Metformin??? Why? Oh BTW the 11.5 is me using decimal for 11 and a half stone and not 11st 5lb (but it is very close to it., which is a bit under my target weight, as is a loss of 1 and a half stone. Another thing, I’m still wearing the same size trousers, they are looser but the weight seems to all come off my midriff so I don’t want to drop a trouser size either if I can help it.

Today was the first day that I have looked in the full length mirror starkers and thought ‘yip, that looks just about right’ – that thought from a person who is just interested in losing visceral fat and is taking the other weight loss as bonus.

Hi Ziggy, yes I have reduced my insulin from 37 units to 26 (I use a Lantus pen) . I have also reduced my Glicazides from 30mg to 20mg. Seeing the doctor tomorrow armed with all my evidence. I am hoping he will reduce my BP meds as I am on Atenonol and Zestril. The Zestril, I believe protects the kidneys from the diabetes but is the Atenonol really necessary??? Think he will be cross with my for the 800 cals but he will not sway me from this.

Did you not get your doctors approval before starting the diet? tut tut

I can’t see how you won’t soon be in a position to come off insulin altogether? How long have you been on it? Were you on other meds before?

Zestril is for mainly high blood pressure sunshine-girl. And Atenolol is a beta-blocker used mainly for high blood pressure and chest pains. Are you on any statins?

I am on a blood pressure tablet too and hope to be able to stop those too.

One thing I notice about GPs is that they put you on medications very easily but are loathe to take you off them again,

You’ve done soooooo well. When are your 8 weeks up (even though I have a feeling you are going to carry on for a while)?

Wow Ziggy, where to start. I have just finished week 6 and I will stay on it for longer than 8. I have been on 24 units of insulin in the past when I had good control so don’t expect to come off now just because I am at 26. However, in the past my b/g have run at 120 ish on morning tests. Now they are rarely more than 100. I have been on insulin for 9 years because I couldn’t ‘stomach’ the meds and my doctor encouraged me to go on it because he said it was an easy solution to my stomach problems.

I started on Atenonol when I was diagnosed with high BP 20 years ago, the Zestril is since I was diagnosed with diabetes.
I also take Simvastatin for high cholesterol which can run at 11 without medication. That is also for 20 years as I was tested when they diagnosed high BP. I was on 60mg of Simvastatin in the UK but my doctor here said it was illegal to give more than 40mg. He said my undiagnosed diabetes was probably part of the high cholesterol problem. I stayed at 40mg until 2 years ago when I started having jumping around the bedroom screaming leg cramps, them arm cramps. He took me off the Simva completely with no replacement and my very good cholesterol (around 3) shot up to 9 so he had to put me back on it but at 20mg where I am now.

Finally, did I tell him about the diet. Yes, but not the detail – not the 800 cal bit. He is very open-minded and knows I go off on tangents and do my own thing. I am hoping the evidence will convince him and I will give him links to the research and ask him to look into it for his own benefit.

I understand about the insulin, in fact some people say it is best to go straight onto insulin to get the diabetes under control straight away.

Did they check your BP – surely your blood pressure has been falling. Better be careful that it doesn’t go too low.. I have refused statins as too many people on my diabetes forum have side effect issues with them.

Your brilliant results will knock the socks off him and maybe convince him to recommend it to others. Onwards and downwards (on the scales)

The doctor will do my BP tomorrow. My husband was told by his cardiologist to buy a home monitor as his BP has gone down to normal, he is recommending my husband be taken off BP meds (he is on a low dose of logimax) so I have been checking my own and it is quite low, around 110/65. Have not worried as I knew I was seeing my doctor soon. The lab only takes blood, they don’t do BPs.

Brilliant for your Hubby, plus – your own is lower than normal values so it is more than Ok. You don’t suffer from white-coat syndrome where your blood pressure is raised in the presence of doctors? Good luck for romorrow – not that you need it.

Oh, I understand about labs vs doctor doing BP. Our practice nurse runs a barrage of diabetic tests every 6 months including BP. Mine is tomorrow – but then I have to go to see my GP to be told the results and than can mean a week or more after the tests have been carried out.

So – Six weeks in – !!!!!! time to weigh
Male, 6ft 1in, Type 2 diabetes for 7 years, Not taking any diabetic meds, On Ramipril for elevated BP. Slim build – TOFI maybe
04th July 2016 Starting Weight – 13 st – 01 lb – 04 oz
11th July 2016 After One Week – 12 st – 09 lb – 09 oz
18th July 2016 After Two Weeks – 12 st – 06 lb — 10 oz
25th July 2016 After Three Weeks – 12 st – 05 lb – 06 oz
01st Aug 2016 After Four Weeks – 11 st – 12 lb – 08 oz
08th Aug 2016 After Five Weeks – 11 st – 10 lb – 08 oz
15th Aug 2016 After Six Weeks – 11 st – 6 lb – 10 oz
This Weeks Loss – 03lb – 14 oz
Total Loss = 01 st – 08 lb – 08 oz

My journey is over – thanks to those (and YOU know who you are) who supported me during this – check out my new Finished post

Hi Ziggy

I have posted on your new thread.

But fantastic results here, you should be very proud. 🙂